dog numbers

reading some interesting figures that mirror NZ I think of the decline in pointers and setters in the UK.Iwould hate to see how few S&P are rego'd here each year

You can find the registration statistics here: http://www.thekennelclub.org.uk/down...tatsgundog.pdf

Here a few breeds, first number is registrations in 2010 / second in 2011:

Gordon Setters 306 / 245

Irish R&W 83 / 119

English Setters 349 / 234

Irish Setters 1126 / 869

Pointers 678 / 751

interesting when you compare these figures to the following gundog breeds:

German Shorthaired Pointer 1410 / 1424

Hungarian Vizsla 1498 / 1588

Weimaraner 1969 / 1581

Europe to the rescue

From the BBC website:
With 234 registrations last year, the setter joins 24 other dogs considered to be at risk of extinction on the club's list of Native Vulnerable Breeds. British and Irish breeds are added when puppy registrations drop below 300 in a year.

With 20 thousand English Setter pups whelped per year in Italy alone, and another 5000 or so each in France and Spain, not to mention the thousands bred in North America and elsehwere, there is absolutely no threat of extinction, but we may see the disappearance of a great breed from its native land.

< BBC News - UK native dog breeds 'at risk of extinction' >

If they aren't able to hunt, then this will happen.

Interesting that the continentals overtaking setters and English pointers wtf. I did notice they still mad on labs and cockers

those figure are not a correct indication of the actual working litters bred...... the total is very small... but sustainable as working breeds.
intersting the wiems have the highest registration as they are not rated as feild dogs any more, and looks like the vizsla is heading that way too.

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Interesting that the continentals overtaking setters and English pointers wtf. I did notice they still mad on labs and cockers

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the versatiles have seen the decline of the setters and pointers for decades, both in the uk and here.

Things go up and down, looking at it over two years is statistically false. Of all those stats the majority will be show stuff as stated above; as for the numbers above on HPRs, none of them would have been working litters. Is it better to have ten great litters or five hundred litters of shit? Working strain setter and pointer litters will always be a very small part of the statistics

Irish setters still pretty popular too

Yeah saw that - What shocked me is that the Weimeraner tops that list in popularity! Shows that the English have lost their sense of taste, or just lost their senses

One wonders about how much a loss of the ability of the average Jo to go and shoot is effecting these numbers and Weis are a more poular pet .The other countries may be changing laws and views more slowly than England where it is harder in general to participate in shooting sports than other countries

Thats the thing - it's England, the average Jo could never have just popped out for a shoot. Those that are inclined to, have done, and always will. And I bet they don't take a weim with them :)

Rejoining Pointer & Setter club today ,are you a member Pointer

Yep

are you going to the September trials in Ngaruwahia

No I wont make any of the trials in sept/oct, away for a bit

whos looking after spot and the hairy one

Hairy one is going back to Robyn, Havent found a place for spot yet

I will see you there --although no idea who you are :thumbsup:its been a long time since I did any training so will run my boy in novice

I'll keep an eye out for guy with a setter in tweed!

HAHA my good ol Tweed suit --thatll be another day -jeans and gummys this time out !!

After all this talk, I expect nothing less than a 3-piece tweed number

how about a 3 piece denim -bwaaarh :thumbsup: Mind it will happen , I love the whole British thing

Your Anglophilia is well documented :P

Hell I love that name -hope I cant be sent to jail for it !!!:XD:

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Hairy one is going back to Robyn, Havent found a place for spot yet

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i can look after him, just bring him up wen you leave, wen you say going back to Robyn ,is it just for her to look after

im sure Pointer said hes not going to be here for the trials

Oh , is spot his dog -re homing him ?

do you actually read the the prior posts El B

-El B, you asked pointer if he was going to the sept trials
-pointer said no, not going to be here
-I asked whos looking after the dogs
-pointer said ,hairy ones going back to robyn, hasnt organised somewea for spot
-I asked is hairy one going back for good or to be looked after while hes away and offered to look after spot

and during all of this, you say you will see him at sept trials, even after he said hes not going to be here, but some how in amongst all of that you have swung pointer towards wearing fucking tweed

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Originally Posted by upnorth uplander

im sure Pointer said hes not going to be here for the trials

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ELB stop smoking that tweed !

working ,on the phone and reading and typing and not reading properly --well what is a man to do lol I went back and read it and Z you were correct Pointer is not going ! Smoking that Tweed Munsey haha nice strange flavour though

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Your Anglophilia is well documented :P

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http://img2.timeinc.net/people/i/200...1a_300x400.jpg

I think ive got Anglophillia too

Oh yessssssssssss

[QUOTE=Munsey;33746I think ive got Anglophillia too[/QUOTE]

Sweet looking long haired American Pitt you've got there Munsey.

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i can look after him, just bring him up wen you leave, wen you say going back to Robyn ,is it just for her to look after

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Yeah he is going to Robyns to be looked after for the trip, You sure you want spot? Has Patch gone back north?

i only have 1 dog here, patch n dex r both up north

Cool PM sent

Cool pic of the Hairy one aye?