I have to disagree with you GQ, Ive trained my dogs using a collar whilst using the whistle also -my young one is a good example of sensible use of collar and training good compliance and a happy bitch .
In saying that if you are new to training you should always seek advice and help from someone a little more advanced in training .Most anti collar posts a purely emotionalplenty of people in the dog community getting results from different methods Im sure
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