Thread: Has everyone shot their dogs and given up?

Has everyone shot their dogs and given up?

Swapped mine for a cat and a gold fish , was a fair deal

Gave mine away and took up knitting

Originally Posted by Pointer

Gave mine away and took up knitting

My plan for a new pup got delayed for a year. Forum knitting club then?
I wanna bring back the David Bain style Jersey, they were cool😆

Originally Posted by R93

My plan for a new pup got delayed for a year. Forum knitting club then?
I wanna bring back the David Bain style Jersey, they were cool��

You knit it and I will wear it

Originally Posted by R93

My plan for a new pup got delayed for a year. Forum knitting club then?
I wanna bring back the David Bain style Jersey, they were cool

I'm taking orders for 2015, could knit your new pup a bain jersey?

I don't know how to start a new thread, but I have a conundrum.

I have owned and successfully hunted GWP's for many years now and have huge love and respect for their abilities and the very large quantities of meat and poultry they have allowed me to bag.

I have never used electric shocks on my dogs and do not believe in training by punishments, but by positive association. My dogs are very strong and willing hunters and setters including upland GAME, WATERFOWL, DEER AND PIGS, EVEN BUMBLEBEES in the garden.

I want to apply for certain hunting area permits but the conditions are that dogs must be certificated as having completed Kiwi aversion certification. The thought of some DoC greeny shocking my dogs is a nightmare to me. Am I wrong to worry and should I just allow my excellent and trusted dogs to undergo this treatment or not? What are the possible negative effects on hunting/ pointing, setting, retrieving and also on dog trust?

Originally Posted by Woody

I don't know how to start a new thread, but I have a conundrum.

I have owned and successfully hunted GWP's for many years now and have huge love and respect for their abilities and the very large quantities of meat and poultry they have allowed me to bag.

I have never used electric shocks on my dogs and do not believe in training by punishments, but by positive association. My dogs are very strong and willing hunters and setters including upland GAME, WATERFOWL, DEER AND PIGS, EVEN BUMBLEBEES in the garden.

I want to apply for certain hunting area permits but the conditions are that dogs must be certificated as having completed Kiwi aversion certification. The thought of some DoC greeny shocking my dogs is a nightmare to me. Am I wrong to worry and should I just allow my excellent and trusted dogs to undergo this treatment or not? What are the possible negative effects on hunting/ pointing, setting, retrieving and also on dog trust?

Get Willie Marsh to do it, dogs will be fine and won't make a difference to their hunting. He adapts to the dog and doesn't give a massive shock like I have had done to some of my dogs by other certifiers

Originally Posted by Woody

I don't know how to start a new thread, but I have a conundrum.

I have owned and successfully hunted GWP's for many years now and have huge love and respect for their abilities and the very large quantities of meat and poultry they have allowed me to bag.

I have never used electric shocks on my dogs and do not believe in training by punishments, but by positive association. My dogs are very strong and willing hunters and setters including upland GAME, WATERFOWL, DEER AND PIGS, EVEN BUMBLEBEES in the garden.

I want to apply for certain hunting area permits but the conditions are that dogs must be certificated as having completed Kiwi aversion certification. The thought of some DoC greeny shocking my dogs is a nightmare to me. Am I wrong to worry and should I just allow my excellent and trusted dogs to undergo this treatment or not? What are the possible negative effects on hunting/ pointing, setting, retrieving and also on dog trust?

@mucko and @Twoshotkill had it done recently. Boys what say you??

Originally Posted by Woody

I don't know how to start a new thread, but I have a conundrum.

I have owned and successfully hunted GWP's for many years now and have huge love and respect for their abilities and the very large quantities of meat and poultry they have allowed me to bag.

I have never used electric shocks on my dogs and do not believe in training by punishments, but by positive association. My dogs are very strong and willing hunters and setters including upland GAME, WATERFOWL, DEER AND PIGS, EVEN BUMBLEBEES in the garden.

I want to apply for certain hunting area permits but the conditions are that dogs must be certificated as having completed Kiwi aversion certification. The thought of some DoC greeny shocking my dogs is a nightmare to me. Am I wrong to worry and should I just allow my excellent and trusted dogs to undergo this treatment or not? What are the possible negative effects on hunting/ pointing, setting, retrieving and also on dog trust?

Don't do it. Parts of the aversion training are meaningless really. When the stuffed kiwi is set up on the bushedge of course a dog is curious and wanders over to investigate. He/she gets a shock, what does that teach them. Not to be curious?. That's bloody useful.

Now if my older dog the only one that has had the training gets onto a scent of kiwi she will return to the vehicle

Originally Posted by Ruff

Has everyone shot their dogs and given up?

I've just about shot the dog I called you about on Thursday

Originally Posted by Andrew46826

I've just about shot the dog I called you about on Thursday

I would have replied, but it's too big to fix by e-mail. The dog needs leadership but in a fairly specific way and without being able to show you leaves me a bit impotent in this instance.

Originally Posted by Ruff

I would have replied, but it's too big to fix by e-mail. The dog needs leadership but in a fairly specific way and without being able to show you leaves me a bit impotent in this instance.

And unfortunately her owner won't (for whatever reason) come and visit you so it looks like electricity is on the menu

Might have to see if I can kidnap her and bring her up to you at some stage

Originally Posted by Andrew46826

And unfortunately her owner won't (for whatever reason) come and visit you so it looks like electricity is on the menu

Might have to see if I can kidnap her and bring her up to you at some stage

240volts will sort her out... might even feed some Koreans if you have any as friends.

Originally Posted by Petros_mk

240volts will sort her out... might even feed some Koreans if you have any as friends.

Just so we are clear I'm not the one administering the electricity....