Thread: Pointer and Setter Trials

it has always been a recognition that the dog has achieved a standard -to say to the handler he is on the right track -he has control and their peers recognize this .Some people think they're doing well but have no measuring stick with a young dog to know how they are doing against other animals with little experience -the qc lets them know

Originally Posted by el borracho

it has always been a recognition that the dog has achieved a standard -to say to the handler he is on the right track -he has control and their peers recognize this .Some people think they're doing well but have no measuring stick with a young dog to know how they are doing against other animals with little experience -the qc lets them know

Whats after a QC El B? Like the next recognition step?

Originally Posted by el borracho

it has always been a recognition that the dog has achieved a standard -to say to the handler he is on the right track -he has control and their peers recognize this .Some people think they're doing well but have no measuring stick with a young dog to know how they are doing against other animals with little experience -the qc lets them know

IT really hasn't got much to do with the handler and the control has has over the dog.
As long as the dog does what he is suppose to do for the type of breed he is (aka what a pointing dog should do - point) then he will get a QC.
You can get a QC without having any control over a dog, dogs don't have to be steady to flush, you won't even need to recall a dog if he is quartering nicely and stays in touch with you (which has a lot to do with the rapport you have with your dog, instead the control you put on him) and finally finds the birds and produces it.
Important part is that he runs like he should, points a bird like he should and not be gun shy...

QC trials really is a test of the dog's raw qualities, rather than control which is not looked at into great detail. Control is a training issue not a breeding quality.

Originally Posted by Petros_mk

IT really hasn't got much to do with the handler and the control has has over the dog.
As long as the dog does what he is suppose to do for the type of breed he is (aka what a pointing dog should do - point) then he will get a QC.
You can get a QC without having any control over a dog, dogs don't have to be steady to flush, you won't even need to recall a dog if he is quartering nicely and stays in touch with you (which has a lot to do with the rapport you have with your dog, instead the control you put on him) and finally finds the birds and produces it.
Important part is that he runs like he should, points a bird like he should and not be gun shy...

QC trials really is a test of the dog's raw qualities, rather than control which is not looked at into great detail. Control is a training issue not a breeding quality.

it really is a raw test to show the dog can hunt and point.
in times of high entries it would be a given that only QC attained dogs get a run in a CH trial.
the main thing I can see is it gives new handlers a taste of walking and running a dog with judges etc.
I see the spaniel crowd have indicated a working test could be on the cards to provide the same.