with credit to Teferrarri for giving credit to dave sheely for his video footage:yaeh am not durnk:Quote:
Originally Posted by teFerrarri
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with credit to Teferrarri for giving credit to dave sheely for his video footage:yaeh am not durnk:Quote:
Originally Posted by teFerrarri
It has nothing to do with tweed, Brians a JAFFA and wouldnt know how to rescue a sheep.Quote:
Originally Posted by Petros_mk
Nah I reckon it had more to do with the fact that the sheep was bigger than El B.Quote:
Originally Posted by upnorth uplander
hell we would - intructions = hey you to next to me jump the fence and pull that fur ball outa the hole ... rest a little ... look job done ..adjust tie and carry onQuote:
Originally Posted by upnorth uplander
Outta sight of the judges and gallery whos to know what Brian might have done to that sheep?
talk is cheap :)Quote:
Originally Posted by el borracho
Yep after all that struggling I think that sheep was buggered Im sure I saw Petros foot prints in the mud ..............Quote:
Originally Posted by teFerrarri
Nothing new .... .
One of the liveliest – okay, let’s be honest and say super-heated – discussions you can find in the gun dog world is whether field trials or hunt tests produce the better hunting dogs. Speed, style, practicality, hunting instinct, finish work and a bird bag full of other elements fuel the debates. What’s important to most of us, however, is what program appeals to us and what we want out of our dogs. The best advice is to attend a couple of field trials or hunt tests, ask your dogs’ breeder for recommendations, and do a little local research to find out what’s available. Then grab your dog and have some fun
My own view is all the above will help your dog and are positive actions as you are focusing on achieving a result !!! Now in saying that Ive always thought of a test with out a comp as kinda like going to Karate and doing the katas to achieve your belts..wow you gota a black -you get there but havent actually fought in the ring under pressure which really shows the weaknesses as a white belt beats the shit out of you ...lol
Oh El B, get off your soapbox, for crying out loud...if someone has a gundog and shoots the odd rabbit or hare over them and the occasional pheasant and quail, and that person and their dog are happy with that, then that is how it is:...some of the most amazing work by sheep dogs I have witnessed working big country of mobs of 500 plus would make a sheep trial dog look like a whelp...
Question...how many dogs are actually involved in gundog trials and/or tests...what would be ball park figure for the percentage...it would be a very small,right? ...so there must be alot of dogs out there doing as their breed was intended to do with happy owners...for many, the proof of just how good their dog is, is in the oven...
PS...in my knowledge, gaining a black belt in karate or judo is not an easily gained title...and the scenerio of a white belt thrashing a black belt is somewhat unrealistic...
Soap box you say , Soap box !!!Quote:
Originally Posted by EeeBees
hahaha I doubt this !!! I imagine most of those trialing sheep dogs are actually working the farm for a job too ..... You miss the point of the Karate EES , they go through a Kata routine which has skill in itself ....but at the end they dont have to compete to pass the belt and if they did the results would be wide and varied
if a man doesnt know much and due to that expects little by default then ignorance is bliss is it not
if all one is used to and knows is mediocre then ignorance is bliss .
Well, I know of two dogs who will never be trialed who have had more birds shot over them than you could wave a stick at...their work is incredible...
that person probably shoots chickens at Tegal.......
Wish the UKKW operated like that. My ten year old son beat the shit out of me in the kumete when I was going for my green.Quote:
You miss the point of the Karate EES , they go through a Kata routine which has skill in itself ....but at the end they dont have to compete to pass the belt
someone has to be the protagonist here haha:D