after many years without training yes--yep yelp where the f----- my dog:D
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after many years without training yes--yep yelp where the f----- my dog:D
All this waffle El Borracho. Everyone here knows the answer to your question, and that's to put him to a pointer bitch. Best thing you could do for the setter
:D my second choice in dogs
el borracho, re the blinking...is it really a matter of softness? I still believe it is probably lack of experience...hyperthetically, if a dog blinks a bird and the bird either flies up or runs, what does the blinker dog do? does he chase the bird, is unsteady to the flush? What happens there? Perhaps it is not a matter of softness but undeveloped prey drive.
You didnt answer my questions...:O_O:
a dog that has been handled too hard around birds can be taught to blink game.
but inexperience can also produced a missed game incident that could be wrongly termed blinked.
In my experience, true blinking is the result of a dog being overly pressured around game ie harsh steadying to wing and shot.
Pointing fur is fine as long as they handle it correctly (ie don't chase/catch etc). Quin retrieved a dead possum in the trial today and it was deemed perfectly acceptable as it was dead when he found it.
depends on the standed of control your after , some are fine with a dog that will run in when your approaching some are not fussed with steady to shot or flush , over or miss handling when trying to get these things my result in a dog that blinks game
just because a dog locks on point does not mean its steady , can you walk circles around your dog when its on point ??
(edit to add) the resin i ask, because if they are not,,, how will you correct them so you can walk around them,,,,,, with out them thinking your correcting them for being on point ??............. thats a example of how you can train a dog to blink game
yes correct ,its been many years away from trialing I forgot --I still will not have my dog acknowledge fur by choice if possible as I don't shoot it.
Today was the first day back at a P&S trial --good to see what I have work on other than the obvious cleaning off my mutt after pissing off for a self hunt and rolling in dead animal:omg:
Great to meet up with Kawhia and RCGSP
Kaimaicockher nailed it, nothing to do with prey drive or softness, although a softer dog may be predisposed to it, I can't answer that one. The reason why people use a long line to stop a dog chasing at the flush was twofold, firstly the obvious one, it makes it easier to get your dog back, and the most important one, to stop you using voice or whistle. When the dog hits the end of the check cord at full speed, he associates the cartwheel he has just involuntarily done with the chase, as opposed to you stopping him by whistle or reprimanding him at the flush, which he may associate with game. From what I am told, once you have create a blinker, it can be hard to fix, often easier to start again.
At trials, are observers allowed?
to correct blinking you change negative association to a positive one-- do what you have to make you dog like birds-food ,praise ,lead him in behind experience dog on point and take it slow
Yes, they are and some, well, most judges are usually happy to allow people to walk behind them when the judging is being done...
I'm confused, what does blinking have to do with breeding again?
Yes Dougie they are accommodating and rather encouraging to observers
EeeBees,they do like the birds but think they're doing something wrong -just got to discover what that is.
Yeah weve got of track:D no biggy.
Talking with the guys about cost to import dogs--wow some serious $,one Aussi pointer from Italy was $30K
Dougie the North Island Trial Champs are being held in Hawkes Bay this year October 13-14...what happens is that the SI Champs are held, then the NIs then the NZs 20 -21st October at Atiamuri. As the NZs are hosted in respective islands alternatively, if the NZs are in the South Island, then the NIs are held first, then the SIs along with the NZs. These champs include the Pointer and Setter (of which the HPRs as in Germans Wire Hairs, Vizsla, German Shorthairs, Weimeraner, etc, are included), then there are the Spaniels, then the Retrievers as in Labradors, Chessapeakes, Golden Retrievers, Flat coat Retrievers etc. If anyone was thinking of getting a gundog breed these events do provide a good opportunity to see how the breeds work etc.
What dogs do you have EeeBees?Are you entering the NZ Champs
Just my luck, I'll be off playing toy soldiers during that time I think. I might be able to catch the last day.
My thoughts exactly about thinking about a working dog - hubby likes Vizslas. I have one in a puppy class, holy crap that dog is on speed or something. She is a wimp but tries to compensate for it by being dog and people aggressive. Her owners purchased her from a photo....oh dear. Anyway I digress.
Have you heard of a Newfoundland Retriever or something like that? The main trainer at my club has three, they are small like a Brittney size, very very soft coat (not a double coat I don't think), and her three are all a lovely peach and white colour similar to a red collie. Are these used much for work?
haha yeah newfies aren't exactly brit size!
It's no different to any gun dog being gun-shy because the introduction to gunshot wasn't done correctly. It's unfortunate, but it does happen.
As others have said, instinct / prey drive / natural ability etc (or lack there of) is of no relevance what so ever to blinking.
I have the Epagneul Breton (French Brittany). See entries close on the 15th of September. Had hoped to go to the NIs as they are being hosted as you would know by HB...which would have been cool to attend as it would only be a 30 minute drive instead of the usual hours to attend any event...which means luke warm thermos...how I hate that...thank goodness for Wild Bean!!!:)
Im entering but have to make up for several years of no work,also im going to need to run some pigeon traps soon also to steady to shot--in fact A-Z start again:)
Moving right along, where to after you secure this bitch pup?
first I want to talk with setter people here and see what they're up to.Talk of Earl trialing again and importing another bitch -I want to see if that's happening or not.I could import from Aussi --just slowly going through the process.