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    dog afraid of gun shots

    Just wondering if anyone would have any tips on how to get my dog use to gun shots.
    She was fine when we were using the smaller guns and would happily follow us along for months. Then she heard my partner shoot the shotgun up ahead one day and that scared the shit out of her she just ran all the way back to the car. Now anything larger than a 22. firing she freaks out about.

    Any ideas would be great, it just would be nice for her to tag along when we do a bit of pest control on mates farms. Plus she has a good nose so she was a helpful indicator for us to know when we were getting close to something.

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    A don't know much about dogs but a member of my family who is into breeding them educate them by having some body shooting a shotgun very far away while he distract the pup with other pups and plays with them. As their attention is focussed on playing they don't get to bothered by the shotgun. And progressively each day the person shooting the shot gun comes closer and closer.

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    Best bet would be getting her used to it step by step, as @Friwi said. Let her get accustomed with the shotgun sound from some distance while her attention is somewhere else (she's eating, playing, or chasing birds).
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    I gun trained my dog with 22s. She was a little skittish but thought she was fine. Took her hunting with suppressed 308, She hated it. Took a month of training before i could pickup a rifle without her cowering away. Started just by picking up the rifle 5cm off the ground and putting it back down. Then laying rifle on the ground placing treats around it etc etc.

    Some dogs just are not suitable for loud noises. But you should be able to gun train with patience.
    Start next to the dog and get someone to go reasonably far away bang two bits of wood together,cap gun, 22 etc. You want to reward for being calm and not being in fear. Ie tail down ears back low head etc. Food driven dog give treats. Toy driven dog throw their toy or play with them etc.
    If they look in direction but don't seem bother thats good.
    Use the dogs reaction to tell you what they are comfortable with. Move closer when they are comfortable.
    Take it slow and work at it slowly. A few times then stop, dont over do it. Give it a day or so rest then do it again.
    Work in both drive and calm states. Its easier to do it while in drive but that just kind of masks the problem if they are still afraid when calm.
    Once they are reasonably comfortable vary where you do it and how you are doing it.
    Can also play loud noises randomly at home on speakers.

    Dont do it right over them while eating food to start off. Its generally fine for dogs that are in gun training but can be bad for dogs who are gun shy already and put them off their food.

    I started mine with a cap gun and was about 20m away and threw her ball, she looked in the direction but didnt care too much. Did that 4 or 5 times, then set it off before throwing the ball.

    Good luck.

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    Start right back at the start and take it very slow. Steel dish on the concrete, two bits of wood, 22 and silencer etc etc. Try playing with the dog while some else makes the noise and make no reaction your self.Real dog training had some free vids that covered a bit on gun shots(like not prasing them etc) My dogs dont care about gun shoots but man do they hate thunder and we had it bad run of it start of this year.

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    Worked up from 22 with subs, 22 hi velocity, 223, then 308 with the first dog, since then the other 2 dogs have learnt off the first one and haven't had to repeat the process. Have you got a friend or work mate with a hunting dog? Take yen both out together and see who they get on

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    No disrespect to those who have posted good advice ,but id seek a professional dog handler ,you don't want it going south any more ,seems plenty of dogs don't get back on track from here .
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    The local gunclub is your friend. Sit in the car with the dog at a goood distance away, talk to it, pat it, don't make a big fuss. Then closer in a few days and so it goes on.

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    thanks for the tips, looks like we might start from scratch again. she is super food driven so that will help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 223nut View Post
    Worked up from 22 with subs, 22 hi velocity, 223, then 308 with the first dog, since then the other 2 dogs have learnt off the first one and haven't had to repeat the process. Have you got a friend or work mate with a hunting dog? Take yen both out together and see who they get on
    Thats a good idea she love being around other dogs. Need to find someone with a hunting dog now.

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    I second the move for seeking professional help. Will prevent things spiraling. A few dollars spent now would be better than what sometimes is the alternative.

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    mine was shit scarred... then he saw a possum drop out of a tree and has been keen ever since....
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    How loud can you clap ? No not ass clap like a stripper .... But with your hands ! That's what I done with my muts, Start by clapping softly (just once) in front of them then get louder as time goes by then behind them unsuspecting .... Worked for me an I live in town.
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    gun shy dog

    you can never be to careful when getting a dog ues to gun fire not all dogs are the same, one of my sons when very young could not handle loud bangs at a guy fawks night we could only reason that loud bangs hurt his ears he got over the problem with ear muffs and now shoots,you are probebly best to seek profestional help as your dog my relate you to the noise, the clay club is a good idea but stay way back so only the guns can be heard in the distance and be aware that this could take a lots of trips and tons of reasurance that every thing is ok and another gun proof dog will help your dog relax

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    Just a quick update. Went out to a mates farm just for some target practice. Ended up bringing some treats along for positive reinforcement. Let off a few rounds with the .22 with the silencer on with my dog next to me she was fine with that then took the silencer off. moved up to the .17 same thing then .243 she was a bit edgy but still didn't run away to the car.
    She was really sticking to my side so we tried with the shotgun but I got my partner to shoot it while I was back behind him with the dog at my side and she first started to run away but after calling her back she stuck it out sitting next to me which was so great ( even tho it doesn't sound great) you could see she wasn't super happy about the noise but still didn't run away back to the car.

    Now to keep working on that and then hopefully to when she can be near me when I fire the shotgun.

    We shall keep working on it with this silly wee mutt
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