huntaway or heading dog

this is not a hunting dog thread but still a working dog thread , i have no were else to ask so here i am,

im after a pup to train to help out around the place will be a yard dog and help bring in and move sheep cows ect , i want a pup from good working lines ? where can i get one ?
i never trained a heading dog or huntaway , but i recon if i can control a cocker spaniel picking up on shoot days on a persurve i can train a cattle dog

but i cant find any training links on the net , dont know anything about blood lines ect and i want a pup

any help will be appreciated ............... and no a setter or pointer lab or another cocker is not what im after :D:D

cheers daniel

I know someone with heading dog pups -ill ask him

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I got a plain eyed heading dog pup a couple of years ago with the same logic - 'If I can train a gundog to a good standard, I can train a heading dog'. It was a damn sight harder than I thought it would be, that said I didn't have access to a training pen or sheep (Just dairy cows).

I went to a training day with Anna Holland which really helped.

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Personally I would get a huntaway - heading dogs are too highly strung.

Hope that helps

Rich

go with a hunterway bro

Talk to NZJager's Dad Dan... I have the contacts if you need them...

new i should have rang you clark , is he local clark

G"day , neighbour might have a pup left kelpie / hunterway x ,if your interested Ill ask him:)

cheers guys cheers for the offers think im after a straight huntaway and would be good to see the parents working to some degree , i got a couple of people to ring, pmed you clark , and some one i will try and track down , see how we get on

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Originally Posted by 7mmwsm

you would be better off getting a semi retired dog off a bigger property.

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I wish I had done this. Would have been a lot easier

I would have to agree a semi retired huntaway where he has been there done that. He will show you the ropes on stock work.

7 suggestion would be the best idea picking up a retied dog ,wont be easy though most of the semi retied dog's go to young fullas just starting out ,or end up yard dogs just used to bark up .you will have your work cut out for ya if youv'e not sure how to start a young Hunter way ,they dont mind charging if you dont have the stop on them, if your moving a hand full of heifers - nek minut dog at the vet lol

Getting a GOOD semi- retired dog is hard , I would rather have no dog than one that fucks up all the time - been there done that . I agree young hunterways maybe TOO willing for moving stock occasionally they need and thrive on continual working and preferably with a older experienced dog. One other thing ,definatly get a bitch they mature far earlier . Cheers

Used a retired hill contry huntaway on a dairy farm he was excellent with dairy cows and young stock, where the right placement and a good bark got the stock moving :)

and after more looking i recon im after a heading dog, as i would need it to single out sheep and even hold one if possible ,, heading dog would bring more to the table im thinking , more fun to train to

in short, a part time position now, leading to full time work on a 1000acre property , few 100 sheep few 100 cattle ect .. thats why i was thinking pup because by the time its full time i will have the time and work for it