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Pointer I must be getting old and... 11-08-2016, 07:18 AM
rossi.45 anyone can ask whatever they... 11-08-2016, 08:04 AM
Pointer I think it's a symptom of the... 11-08-2016, 08:19 AM
Tombi Dogs in general? the... 15-08-2016, 03:50 PM
Sako 243 Marketing, business,... 11-08-2016, 08:22 AM
kawhia Pretty much the key elements... 11-08-2016, 09:39 AM
morgun its $2000 for a chesapeake... 11-08-2016, 01:54 PM
Ruff In many cases the x-rays and... 11-08-2016, 05:32 PM
Pointer I respect that, but no... 11-08-2016, 08:26 AM
mikee For that sort of money you... 11-08-2016, 08:41 AM
kawhia for the sake of conversation,... 18-08-2016, 07:31 AM
kawhia Welcome to 2016 and the world... 11-08-2016, 08:36 AM
Timmay Yes you are and yes. 11-08-2016, 08:43 AM
Pointer This isn't the world wide... 11-08-2016, 08:43 AM
mikee I understand that totally and... 11-08-2016, 08:48 AM
kawhia Such a small litter will not... 11-08-2016, 08:54 AM
Steve123 If a breed becomes... 11-08-2016, 09:04 AM
Dorkus My Mrs' brother wants (but... 11-08-2016, 02:02 PM
Pengy It will have a fashion house... 11-08-2016, 02:48 PM
Dougie I must be getting old and... 11-08-2016, 02:50 PM
lophortyx expect more of this , the... 11-08-2016, 04:48 PM
Tommy The hairdresser up the road... 11-08-2016, 08:04 PM
Pengy The better news is that the... 11-08-2016, 03:18 PM
Dougie Well that's good news. No... 11-08-2016, 04:17 PM
223nut Different kettle of fish but... 11-08-2016, 04:26 PM
mikee You don't breed dogs to make... 11-08-2016, 04:33 PM
223nut Yep, going to have a second... 11-08-2016, 04:42 PM
gsp follower oh what a sheltered life you... 17-08-2016, 09:47 PM
gsp follower im tearing up at the memory... 17-08-2016, 10:28 PM
Tahr Off topic, but I used to... 18-08-2016, 10:45 PM
Ruff I can;t believe you believed... 17-08-2016, 10:45 PM
mikee puppy farmers maybe but I... 17-08-2016, 11:30 PM
Ruff No breeders. 18-08-2016, 12:10 AM
kawhia I read through the new... 11-08-2016, 05:58 PM
Ducdog Same here, any surplus from a... 11-08-2016, 07:41 PM
Ruff Far more useful to analyse... 12-08-2016, 11:10 AM
ethos OK I'll bite :) Aside from... 19-08-2016, 10:20 AM
kawhia Don't get me started on that... 19-08-2016, 11:39 AM
EeeBees It is a hard one this...if... 11-08-2016, 06:37 PM
Pointer Don't even get me started on... 11-08-2016, 10:06 PM
257weatherby Breeding animals should not... 11-08-2016, 11:34 PM
Pointer Sad thing is, at $2000 a pup... 12-08-2016, 06:43 AM
Ruff There's nothing sad about it... 12-08-2016, 03:51 PM
kawhia Yep even though the litter... 12-08-2016, 07:52 AM
mikee funny thing was when we were... 12-08-2016, 08:35 AM
kawhia In keeping with jim's old age... 12-08-2016, 09:05 AM
Pointer That used to be called an... 12-08-2016, 10:08 AM
mikee My wife often jokes that her... 12-08-2016, 10:39 AM
Pointer Respectfully I haven't... 12-08-2016, 08:16 PM
Ruff Seems we are on different... 12-08-2016, 11:13 PM
Pointer That's OK, were all adults... 13-08-2016, 11:33 AM
Ruff Just grab a bottle of single... 13-08-2016, 03:22 PM
Pointer Not a bad plan when I get... 13-08-2016, 06:41 PM
Ruff It was free (for me) cold and... 13-08-2016, 09:56 PM
223nut Sounds like what I say when... 13-08-2016, 10:00 PM
EeeBees We were actually discussing... 13-08-2016, 10:26 PM
Ruff Yes Tori.... Ummm... I... 14-08-2016, 03:03 PM
EeeBees Well, the show people might... 14-08-2016, 08:00 PM
Pointer ...and I don't think that... 14-08-2016, 03:09 PM
Ruff As I say our prices here are... 15-08-2016, 09:52 AM
Tahr Well, Im getting old and... 14-08-2016, 03:19 PM
kawhia My first decent gundog cost... 14-08-2016, 04:59 PM
Wirehunt You lot wanna head up around... 15-08-2016, 05:35 PM
Pointer Sure. I have only seen four... 18-08-2016, 08:12 AM
kawhia i was asking more of a... 18-08-2016, 01:06 PM
Pointer I wouldnt say I have written... 18-08-2016, 02:42 PM
Ruff Pedigrees are more likely to... 24-08-2016, 12:25 PM
kawhia Was it the wire haired vizsla... 18-08-2016, 09:02 PM
Pointer No but thats a good point.... 18-08-2016, 09:54 PM
kawhia The rise has hardly been a... 18-08-2016, 10:13 PM
Ruff Ummm it actually did with you... 18-08-2016, 10:26 PM
Pointer Where do you see it ending?... 18-08-2016, 10:26 PM
kawhia I think the NZKC and the... 19-08-2016, 08:31 AM
jakewire I've read this thread with... 19-08-2016, 09:42 PM
Pointer So if you don't buy it,... 19-08-2016, 10:48 AM
kawhia If you buy a pup with the... 19-08-2016, 11:35 AM
Pointer Yoy didnt really answer the... 19-08-2016, 05:00 PM
kawhia Funny thing is if I was in... 19-08-2016, 07:48 PM
EeeBees The rather awkward and sad... 19-08-2016, 07:51 PM
Tahr its damn difficult. Take my... 22-08-2016, 02:59 PM
Wirehunt Sometimes I think people get... 22-08-2016, 07:42 PM
ethos Its about risk. Toyota makes... 23-08-2016, 12:09 AM
223nut Want to like Wirehunt comment... 22-08-2016, 07:49 PM
gsp follower it used to be you.d pass the... 22-08-2016, 09:27 PM
kawhia it's not rocket science.... 23-08-2016, 08:22 AM
Ruff But if i see exceptional... 24-08-2016, 12:26 PM
gqhoon As far as acceptable prices... 24-08-2016, 01:05 PM
Pointer I wish I could like the above... 24-08-2016, 01:52 PM
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    I respect that, but no serious dog man could look a buyer in the eye and say they all turn out great. You have every chance of getting a dud as you do for the average of the whole breed. Dogs are dogs, not all are created equal. This particular breed doesn't have any advantage over similar ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pointer View Post
    I respect that, but no serious dog man could look a buyer in the eye and say they all turn out great. You have every chance of getting a dud as you do for the average of the whole breed. Dogs are dogs, not all are created equal. This particular breed doesn't have any advantage over similar ones.

    For that sort of money you would want a "Leupold" warranty. Actually you might be better putting the money towards importing a dog with good genetics.

    Pointer pups were $500 (looking at the expensive end of their "price range" when we first got ours now they seem to average $1000-1200 from the same breeder!
    Trust the dog.........................................ALWAYS Trust the dog!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pointer View Post
    I respect that, but no serious dog man could look a buyer in the eye and say they all turn out great. You have every chance of getting a dud as you do for the average of the whole breed. Dogs are dogs, not all are created equal. This particular breed doesn't have any advantage over similar ones.
    for the sake of conversation, define getting a dud ? i can agree randon breeding of both purebred and cross breeding can produce a vast margin of ability etc but a well planned litter bred on lifting the bar really had me thinking when you posted this.

 

 

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