Thread: I must be getting old and cynical

In keeping with jim's old age and going a bit cynical, Husky x golden retriever= golberian on trademe 1500.
Used to be free to good home or worse.

That used to be called an accident, not a golberian... whelped under the back step and given away quietly

Originally Posted by Pointer

That used to be called an accident, not a golberian... whelped under the back step and given away quietly

My wife often jokes that her inadvertent attention in the breeding kennel she worked in created the worlds first "Brussel" terrier.

It was a catastrophe at the time but now would be worth a fortune as a designer dog

Respectfully I haven't responded to you because I don't know where to begin. I disagree with absolutely every point you made in your first post, and don't know how to put it all down in writing!

Seems we are on different pages.

That's OK, were all adults here. We agree on most things, about time we found something not to agree on will write a novel tonight. It's not easy on a phone

Just grab a bottle of single malt and come over for a spirited discussion!

Not a bad plan when I get back. I won't bring that terrible beer this time

Originally Posted by Pointer

Not a bad plan when I get back. I won't bring that terrible beer this time

It was free (for me) cold and had alcohol, what was not to like?

Originally Posted by Ruff

It was free (for me) cold and had alcohol, what was not to like?

Sounds like what I say when someone asks what beer I drink, brown cold and fizzy!

We were actually discussing matters relating to @Pointer getting old and cynical and it has all turned to alcoholic beverages... ye gads...still I suppose it all beats an on going dirge on the matter of overpriced, underachieving canines bred by those who may have never witnessed their chosen breed doing what the breed was developed for in the first place...

Yes Tori.... Ummm... I wasn't meaning people who had never seen it, or even those who have seen a bit of it, or a lot of it... I was referring to those who didnt focus 100% of their breeding decisions on the performance of a hunting dog as a hunting dog... ANYTHING else is a compromise, a con job, and based on BS. I don;t need or want a show pony that hunts. I want a hunting dog that hunts, and NOTHING less.

Originally Posted by Ruff

Yes Tori.... Ummm... I wasn't meaning people who had never seen it, or even those who have seen a bit of it, or a lot of it... I was referring to those who didnt focus 100% of their breeding decisions on the performance of a hunting dog as a hunting dog... ANYTHING else is a compromise, a con job, and based on BS. I don;t need or want a show pony that hunts. I want a hunting dog that hunts, and NOTHING less.

Well, the show people might get away with the little/biggish fibs etc but when you only sell puppies to hunters you cannot pull any wool over any eyes because the proof is truly in the pudding...the clouds of talcum powder wafting in the down wind at the shows says alot...and of course they will never sell any pup which they think could get to Best of Group, Best whatever in show...however, to me, no matter what, the puppies must be in standard and to me that means adhesion to the French standard...and yes, @Pointer, I agree, it should not cost an arm and a leg...

...and I don't think that should cost an arm and a leg.

This thread has driven me to drink

Originally Posted by Pointer

...and I don't think that should cost an arm and a leg.

As I say our prices here are very low. I would like to see a more performance based system. Where price isn't based on trends of breeds or rarity but on ability. The example of the prices paid for cross breeds is very valid and in most cases ridiculous. I gave Chris Hill a gentle ribbing when he bred a litter of "Spanadoors". They were, as it turned out, little rippers of hunting dogs, not much use from a breeding point of view, but he certainly got his money out of them, without any NZKC costs etc... I inquired if "Spanadoor" was an old english name for "left the bloody gate open". In all fairness it was a deliberate mating, but he did laugh. Like horses.... bring in a high faluting stallion and stand him at stud if he doesn't produce proven performers by the time they are three you'll be lucky to give his services and progeny away... BUT if they perform you'll need to win lotto to own one. I would agree that there are an awful lot of dogs being over priced, as I said earlier, I could have bred 4 litters a year of mediocrity and sold the pups for $800 each and made more money than I did by breeding one very good litter in 20 plus years and charging a premium for that time learning the lines, the dogs in those lines, taking note of how the Gurus bred etc... It's not about the individual cost but what you get for that.

Originally Posted by Pointer

This thread has driven me to drink

A short putt should have been all that was needed!