Thread: Jagd Terrier

Originally Posted by gqhoon

As with your GWP question, talk to Alex at Sambarman Kennels.....he's got them.

I'm not that serious about them I was more just curious. I've contacted about 7 different breeders here and he's the only one who hasn't got back to me so far! Bloke tony Alvarez looks alright and his pups are reasonable priced compared to others, havent heard of him much though.

Tony is Huntwyre kennels. Show and Working I believe. There is actually a Huntwyre dog here in NZ and is the Sire to my dog and Tahrs bitch.

Purchase price of the pup is irrelevant, as it costs just as much to feed a shit one for 10 years as it does a decent one.

Originally Posted by gqhoon

Tony is Huntwyre kennels. Show and Working I believe. There is actually a Huntwyre dog here in NZ and is the Sire to my dog and Tahrs bitch.

Purchase price of the pup is irrelevant, as it costs just as much to feed a shit one for 10 years as it does a decent one.

Small world hey!
So I take it that they're good? ha
Yeh I know that, my only worry is it'd hurt more getting an expensive dog hit by a car or bitten by a snake than a cheaper one. I'm happy to pay good money providing its got the breeding. I wouldn't pay $2k for one thats come from generations of pure showing lines sorta thing.

I wouldn't judge a Kennel on the performance of two litters sired by a dog that the Kennel bred. Personally, I believe the Dam brought more to the mating than the Sire. But it was their respective qualities, when brought together, that produced some excellent working dogs.

For every Kennel you look at, you need to do a lot of research on the quality of dogs they are producing, and the quality of dogs that those dogs are producing. Making a decision on the performance (or photos of dead animals) of a handful of dogs will end in disappointment for you. See as many dogs from different kennels in action as possible. That's in the field, and working. Get alongside people who have their pups and watch them develop. That is the only way to get a true picture.

Realistic purchase price will be $800-$1500. Perhaps a little more if imported dogs are used and the breeder is trying to recover the costs of that. Even then, I maintain price is irrelevant......I have an imported FCH bitch in my kennels that has cost me nothing. She is more dog than I will ever need and I simply cannot fault her. I also have a daughter from her and she cost me more than any other dog I have ever owned. Also have a dog who was a replacement for a dud I bought that cost me many thousands in vet bills due to various health issues. The replacement has cost me nothing, yet I would have paid twice the going rate because of what he has turned out to be.

Originally Posted by gqhoon

I wouldn't judge a Kennel on the performance of two litters sired by a dog that the Kennel bred. Personally, I believe the Dam brought more to the mating than the Sire. But it was their respective qualities, when brought together, that produced some excellent working dogs.

For every Kennel you look at, you need to do a lot of research on the quality of dogs they are producing, and the quality of dogs that those dogs are producing. Making a decision on the performance (or photos of dead animals) of a handful of dogs will end in disappointment for you. See as many dogs from different kennels in action as possible. That's in the field, and working. Get alongside people who have their pups and watch them develop. That is the only way to get a true picture.

Realistic purchase price will be $800-$1500. Perhaps a little more if imported dogs are used and the breeder is trying to recover the costs of that. Even then, I maintain price is irrelevant......I have an imported FCH bitch in my kennels that has cost me nothing. She is more dog than I will ever need and I simply cannot fault her. I also have a daughter from her and she cost me more than any other dog I have ever owned. Also have a dog who was a replacement for a dud I bought that cost me many thousands in vet bills due to various health issues. The replacement has cost me nothing, yet I would have paid twice the going rate because of what he has turned out to be.

This is really great advice... some of the best i have ever seen on any gundog forum!

Originally Posted by gqhoon

I wouldn't judge a Kennel on the performance of two litters sired by a dog that the Kennel bred. Personally, I believe the Dam brought more to the mating than the Sire. But it was their respective qualities, when brought together, that produced some excellent working dogs.

For every Kennel you look at, you need to do a lot of research on the quality of dogs they are producing, and the quality of dogs that those dogs are producing. Making a decision on the performance (or photos of dead animals) of a handful of dogs will end in disappointment for you. See as many dogs from different kennels in action as possible. That's in the field, and working. Get alongside people who have their pups and watch them develop. That is the only way to get a true picture.

Realistic purchase price will be $800-$1500. Perhaps a little more if imported dogs are used and the breeder is trying to recover the costs of that. Even then, I maintain price is irrelevant......I have an imported FCH bitch in my kennels that has cost me nothing. She is more dog than I will ever need and I simply cannot fault her. I also have a daughter from her and she cost me more than any other dog I have ever owned. Also have a dog who was a replacement for a dud I bought that cost me many thousands in vet bills due to various health issues. The replacement has cost me nothing, yet I would have paid twice the going rate because of what he has turned out to be.

How can anyone add anymore to that? Sage advice!

Originally Posted by gqhoon

I wouldn't judge a Kennel on the performance of two litters sired by a dog that the Kennel bred. Personally, I believe the Dam brought more to the mating than the Sire. But it was their respective qualities, when brought together, that produced some excellent working dogs.

For every Kennel you look at, you need to do a lot of research on the quality of dogs they are producing, and the quality of dogs that those dogs are producing. Making a decision on the performance (or photos of dead animals) of a handful of dogs will end in disappointment for you. See as many dogs from different kennels in action as possible. That's in the field, and working. Get alongside people who have their pups and watch them develop. That is the only way to get a true picture.

Realistic purchase price will be $800-$1500. Perhaps a little more if imported dogs are used and the breeder is trying to recover the costs of that. Even then, I maintain price is irrelevant......I have an imported FCH bitch in my kennels that has cost me nothing. She is more dog than I will ever need and I simply cannot fault her. I also have a daughter from her and she cost me more than any other dog I have ever owned. Also have a dog who was a replacement for a dud I bought that cost me many thousands in vet bills due to various health issues. The replacement has cost me nothing, yet I would have paid twice the going rate because of what he has turned out to be.

So any kennels I look at I should be getting contact details for people who have their dogs and either go out with them or at least get into contact with them if I possibly can?
Thats what the price range has basically been, one lot of gwp pups was a bit more expensive. With what your saying in mind, in reality could you just buy a dog from a backyard bloke who is breeding his two good hunting dogs together (providing they are good) for a bit of green and have the chance that it could end up as good or better than some of these "high quality" kennels? - not that thats what I'm necessarily thinking of doing just curious