Anyone using a non typical dog breed for hunting feather or fur?
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Anyone using a non typical dog breed for hunting feather or fur?
Poodles might have good hunting skills. Dont know anyone that uses one in NZ.
took one of my rotties out once it had no training at all for hunting but it showed good instinct it was also pretty good in the paddock helping round horses up considering it was just a pet
From wikipedia, a pic of a standard poodle at work:
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From Wikipedia article, a problem of the poodle is that it's difficult to train as it's too intelligent, second in intelligence only to the border collie. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poodle#Work_and_sport
Rottweiler make great dear dogs, or at least my mates ones do, his do not run chase or bark merely alert us and track the deer, they do not go nuts like my pig dogs
My German Shepherd was a great tracker on deer
I've looked around for a standard poodle breeder that can supply a pup with some hunting instinct still in the genes. Have not found one yet. Took my miniature poodle out pig hunting years ago but he was not very interested. And he did not like swimming at all so duck hunting was out as well. But he was a very good watch dog (for which the miniatures are originally bred).
I've got a little pitty cross who loves retrieving. Very soft mouthed and an excellent swimmer. She gets very cold though as she has super short hair. Don't think she would be much of a deer dog as she doesn't use her nose as much.
Have another who was an unwanted pigdog pup and he's hopeless even though he never hunted pigs. Awesome nose but loud and strong chase instinct.
Still bring him on open country hunts for a bit of company and to track a wounded deer
I've got a little pitty cross who loves retrieving. Very soft mouthed and an excellent swimmer. She gets very cold though as she has super short hair. Don't think she would be much of a deer dog as she doesn't use her nose as much.
Have another who was an unwanted pigdog pup and he's hopeless even though he never hunted pigs. Awesome nose but loud and strong chase instinct.
Still bring him on open country hunts for a bit of company and to track a wounded deer
Any Breed can become an indicator and/or retriever/finder.
Its a controlled form of worrying - its a natural Instinct for a dog to want kill/find/eat.
I have seen in Kiev - watched with amazement at the street dogs that form packs (a licorice all sorts of breed)
Cats don't last long outside there.
My cousin uses a purebred staffy on ducks
I have a staffy also, its funny because a lot of people will tell you that staffys and other bull breeds are not good swimmers and wont like deep water as they have too much muscle and not enough fat and sink like stones, but mine loves the water, I wouldnt call him a strong swimmer but he enters the water himself and will swim quite happily.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pointer
As far as hunting goes hes not that good... took him out with a mates very good finder/bailers one weekend and all he managed to do was teach my mates dogs to bail possums up trees... mate wasnt happy at all haha.
Rottweilers are by far the best living animal on the planet (two legged or four)
That is a fact, look it up.
Ryan Yep, just because it's used on ducks doesn't make it any good. In fact it's painful to watch.
I've seen heading dogs used on deer with pretty good results. And a fella on here used an ex racing grey hound. But the grey hound was pretty noisy. Better on rabbits ha
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Both the staffs and grey hounds are hunting breeds though......rats and hares
English staffordshire was originally bred for "Bear Baiting" because they have that "never give up" attitude they somehow found it entertaining to throw them in a cage with a bear and watch them duke it out to the end..Quote:
Originally Posted by kawhia
I used to take my Alaskan Malamutes out with me when we got the call from local farmers who got cull permits to thin out some roos. They were good indicators but with a strong prey drive they wanted to chase - and the old fellow was a bastard for claiming anything dead as HIS. Just about had to fight him for anything I wanted to take home mostly for dog tucker anyway. They loved fresh roo, and I got to like it too. Really nice lean meat
Sounds like a great story on paper, but in the real world the breed was a direct cross between a bull dog and a terrier...bull and terrier.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryan_Songhurst
Used in the rat pits which came about after animal baiting was banned, and them poms needed something else to bet on.
Had to ban all the fun sports didn't they?
mines english bull x dogo argentina, he was bred as a pig hunter but had no inclination. so was starved etc till we rescued him. since i fed him rabbit meat to build him off from a underweight 17kg to his current 35 he thinks of wild bunnies as food. he will not "go for" any other animal and has a weird trait of liking bichons and poodles as the first dog he was socialized was a bichon. the look of horror on bichon owners as he runs up at the dog park is legendary. even worse was the look from them when he came back covered in blood n guts after catching a rabbit. i swear the grannies just about had a heart attack till they saw there woolly dogs again.
I thought bulldogs and bull terriers were bred to bait bulls.Quote:
Originally Posted by kawhia
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Wouldn't they over heat in Australia?Quote:
Originally Posted by keneff
Our staffy died in the water, used to swim with us every day in summer, even dived under for sticks and rocks. Had a heart attack in a deep pool in Waimana while chasing something think it was a trout...was over 14yoQuote:
Originally Posted by Ryan_Songhurst
Have heard of a guy that uses one for deer hunting. Don't know him at all and not seen the hound but heard of him walking in a hut one day and everyone pissing themselves at the sight of his trusty black poodle.Quote:
Originally Posted by headcase
He had the last laught though when he returned with a butchered red skin the next day lol
Apparently it did pretty well for itself.
Bull dogs maybe the terriers were breed to fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cordite
bulldogs yes.... terriers were used as terriers.
I used to have a staffy cross pig dog that would indicate deer by pointing with her front leg, was quite funny to see this box headed mutt working quietly like a pointer breed in the bush.
Wow, I thought the Dogo Argentina was one breed which cannot be imported to New Zealand ... along with the American Pit Bull Terrier, Brazilian Fila, Japanese Tosa and Perro de Presa Canario.Quote:
Originally Posted by gonetropo
There's an existing line of dogos here already. I'm pretty sure they are not supposed to be bred for sale or something along those lines but they are about. They use them a lot to hunt pigs and protect stock from pumas in south America and are second to none if you want something to protect your property. A farmer in our area over there had one of them and it was chained to it's kennel if he wasn't about and their property was robbed, the dog dragged it's entire kennel around to the front of the house and smashed straight through the ranchslider glass trying to get at the thieves, they found him nearly dead (the dog) hanging out the bathroom window by his chain, his kennel had been dragged through the house behind him and he had obviously followed the thief out the bathroom window bleeding really bad from a big gash up his front leg from going through the glass. I didn't see it but was told there was blood from both human and dog all through the house like some kind of grissly murder scene. Thieves obviously thought they were safe since the dog was chained up..Quote:
Originally Posted by EeeBees
My young EP aged 6 months had his first run on pig on Saturday by himself. Came back when he realised he was hunting on a vertical slope.
A show bred pointer definitely comes under non-hunting breed ��
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I use a Ridgeback on deer as a pointer - of sorts. They are a hunting breed but supposedly for Lions. He has done OK, I just say "where's the deer" and he scents and tracks. Main problem is he chases them sometimes if they run - not all the time however. His best day he led me into some thick bush and right into a mob of half a dozen red stags all sitting down. I didn't want to shoot any as they were velveties and I was after a spiker but we git within 10m of them before they spooked and all hell broke loose, dog was leashed to my belt and I nearly went for a skate.
Whippets are most certainly good rabbit killers. Fast as, natural born rabbit hunters. They dont all chase though, some choosing to sit out the side of a pack and overview the proceedings until a rabbit breaks out of the dog pack, or tries to sneak off, then the whippet will appear out of nowhere and clean it up.. fascinating to watch..
I would consider training one for other forms of hunting.
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Originally Posted by Ryan_Songhurst
I've had 3 staffs over years still got one . two of them sunk like stones (wanted to swim tried it multiple times)and the 3rd which we still have is a absolute fish she will be out in 4ft surf no worries out swimming in middle of the kaituna river where we live and she will do it with a 1.5m by 4inch think piece of drift wood in her mouth too no worries
My Gordon setter will indicate deer and best of all is very quiet when in hunting/stalking mode. Then when the gun come up he ducks in behind me. will also track wounded game and barks when he gets to them.
Down side is that if I let him out if sight in the bush as he hunts silently I would never find him unless I call him back. (yes I know, get a tracking collar.)
and after shooting 6 possums at home last winter(airgun) he has developed an interest in them so about on dusk he gets distracted.
Been working on that on bush walks reminding him to ignore them. Hehehe.
Also a bit hit and miss on fetching. gets bored with it after 3-4 repetitions.
Zane
South island mallards are too big for him. Attempt at quail possibly more realistic
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I keep telling my Staffies they aren’t hunting dogs but fat lot of good that does me, they’ll have a go alright. Only problem is occasionally mamma or pappa pig pitches up then its a different bloody story, that tail gets tucked up where the sun doesn’t shine, then a hasty retreat is beaten all the way back to the bloke with the gun! Honestly wish I had a video of the times these muppets dogs of mine getting chased out of the bush by an angry pig, very funny.
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best deer dog Ive ever had was a Rottweiler, Whippet x Weimaraner for my pig dogs
