My brother and I had different views on the collar, ethics of it don't bother me just effectiveness.
Brother got one and when it's on it works great. Issue is that it doesn't fix the issue, it just addresses the symptom. As soon as it's off or the battery goes dead his dog does what he wants.
You're far better off in the long run just putting the extra work into your dog with obedience. I went that direction now no matter what great things there are to chase my girl doesn't leave my side - no batteries required.
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