Thread: Should I get a dog.

if you want to train a SAR dog, be prepared for minimum 3 yrs hard out work and no guarantee of being able to deploy.
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Hi @deadidick , no I haven't yet. I've just got about 40m of fencing to go & the property will be fully fenced & I'll be ready. I come to a final decision regarding the breed I'm getting about every 2 days! I think I've settled on a Heading dog at the moment. What did you get?


@Pengy I was told that I wouldn't be able to have a dog that could do both SAR & deer indicating but I'm not too sure how reliable this advice was as I'm pretty sure the guy telling me had no idea what a deer indicting dog was like & was thinking more like a pig hunting dog.

And I'm not too worried about how much work or how long I will take to get there as I have nothing but time on my hands really. As long as the dog & I are enjoying it then it's all good.

[QUOTE=Ricochet;452381]Hi @deadidick , no I haven't yet. I've just got about 40m of fencing to go & the property will be fully fenced & I'll be ready. I come to a final decision regarding the breed I'm getting about every 2 days! I think I've settled on a Heading dog at the moment. What did you get?


I was lucky enough to get a GWP. It's been a good excuse to slope of in the arvo or after dinner to do a bit of training, walk or what ever.
Found this dog a lot easier to work with compared with other bully type dogs I've had previously. Got a lot of natural ability, so comes down to the handler I think in this case.

Originally Posted by Ricochet

Hello, I was after some advice please.

I think I want a dog. I would like something I can train to indicate deer and I'm a Tauranga SAR member so I might want to have a go at using it for that too.

I had my heart set on a Vizsla but I have talked to a few breeders and they all agree that since I work full time and am single, (so no-one's home during the day), that a Viszla is not the breed for me.

So my questions are...

Should I get a dog since I'm at work all day?

And, if so, what's breed would you recommend? I am a novice trainer but other than work have heaps of time to spend with it.

i spoke to the lady who runs SAR in tauranga and she said that if you dogs trained for deer dont bother with SAR work. basicly one or the other

Originally Posted by Ricochet

@kawhia, the question is more of 'what breed would suit me'. If a Vizsla isn't suitable then what else would experienced hunters/dog owners recommend?

Your welcome to come out home and check out my wirehair we are in te puna

Originally Posted by mucko

i spoke to the lady who runs SAR in tauranga and she said that if you dogs trained for deer dont bother with SAR work. basicly one or the other

Bullshit.
I've seen a SAR dog that loves rabbiting, and owner of said dog is high up the SAR food chain.

Yes. Collie/ heading dog. Have fond if u get more than 1 u Pr all the time into training the 1st and slack off for any more u get. Mien r tied up on a running line 8hr and get 2 hr run in evening, not a problem.

Great excuse to get out of the house and away from the issues at home.... Dogs r great listeners and dont talk back to much.

Know a guy in icers that was using a collie for sar and it indicated on deer and he could use it for both, (not certified but thats another story)

Originally Posted by Wirehunt

Bullshit.
I've seen a SAR dog that loves rabbiting, and owner of said dog is high up the SAR food chain.

only going on what she said to me you can ring her and tell its bullshit if you like. i offered to train my girl for sar work and they turned me down flat because she was trained for scenting deer, they believe and or have had failures in the past where deer dogs don't detect people live or dead well enough for SAR work. i would of thought it would only be a matter of training but they wouldn't have it.

Originally Posted by mawzer308

A standard working day will not affect the animal. Hard pressed to beat a Lab but, they are heavy breathers and are noisier in the bush.

Go lab, they may be all the above and are really just a stomach with legs that farts a lot, but they tick all the boxes well mine did anyway

Originally Posted by mucko

i spoke to the lady who runs SAR in tauranga and she said that if you dogs trained for deer dont bother with SAR work. basicly one or the other

At risk of incurring the wrath of a couple of friends on here.. the reality is when the sentence starts with "i spoke to the lady who runs SAR" you are most likely talking to someone who doesn't have a damn clue about dogs. I own a bitch fully trained to detect drugs, tobacco, cellphones and more and I hunt over her and have just bred a litter from her... she will do anything I ask her to do... so long as the communication is valid and she understands she is as versatile as can be... she is a springer. Viszla, lab, heading take your pick. They are all easy handling breeds. All handle being left for the day if your handling is adept in the rest of the time, that's the rub... Before you dive in the deep end, come up here and have a chat. I'm in Waihi, just up the road and have the #1 Commercial gundog kennel in the country. I am happy to show you some dogs, have a chat and a coffee and hopefully get you off on the right foot.

Originally Posted by mucko

only going on what she said to me you can ring her and tell its bullshit if you like.

I would.

Originally Posted by mikee

No..................... we got 2 pups (as SWMBO was determined they not be lonely when we weren't home). NEVER EVER AGAIN

It has taken a long time for ME to be top dog. in their pack and caused many many many issuses. Now that they are 7 peace is reining in the house but the first two years were a battle.

i cannot imagine the situation where 2 pups don't know who TOP Dog is . . its me .. . or there is some negative reinforcement coming their way until they understand.

Labs are the best

Originally Posted by rossi.45

i cannot imagine the situation where 2 pups don't know who TOP Dog is . . its me .. . or there is some negative reinforcement coming their way until they understand.

Amen.
Our son has a 5 month old Husky pup that does what it likes with him. When I speak it listens because I've made it that way. She recently went through the food aggression thing, I was outside when she got fed and our youngest decided to go and pat her, the dog growled and I growled louder and more viciously, backed her off her food and growled till she rolled over then got the daughter to pick up the dogs food and walk away then bring it back, when she put it down the dog went to snatch at the food so I growled again. I kept that up for a few days and now anyone in the household can go take her food at any time.
The biggest problem I find is people who have a "fur baby" instead of a dog, they treat it like an equal and dogs don't like that. They need a leader for their pack and will try to take that roll if you let them.

Ricochet.
yes you should get a dog.
The fact that you have asked here says to me that you actually give a toss
some people buy/ get given a dog with no thought gone into it.
do some research, as your doing now
and


For fuck sake, don't get a Wirehaired pointer as your first dog.