ok my 2 cents worth.....stay is a redundant command....it is a sit which is a one way command eg sit until told to "move on" "come here" "away back" "get on the back ya mongrel" etc
another discussion on this elsewhere came to same conclusion .
recall= come here
those two commands are VITAL no matter what you do with dog...it can save dogs life.
they are BOTH non negotiable if you give command you enforce it WHATEVER IT TAKES
the single hardest thing/biggest problem will be family and others giving "sit down" not realising it is so important (Ive pondered weather to teach dog this command with other verbal instruction eg platapus/ rumplestiltskin etc )
dog sits UNTILL you tell it to move
hope that helps its MY THOUGHTS and what works for me.
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