close enough to poke with the barrel.....
but throw ya tape measure away, if the dogs steady to game and under control i'm happy with my dogs to be within eye shot in the bush.
contary to what tussock says it's actually the nose you are using on the dog, not the eyes, hunting into the wind the value of a strong pointing breed really comes into play, as the natural desire to point and road in comes to the fore........ all you are hunting is the deer scent cone, if you intend waiting for the dog to spot the deer before you do then leave the dam thing at home.
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