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Lets just say you have just lost a WHP.
Where would you go.
Hunter is approaching 60, and has hip problems can walk for miles though but cannot run after a misbehaving dog
Wants an alrounder with bidable personality .
Probably last dog for me, if I can get 12-14 yrs out of him/her then I'm well into my 70's
Is there any other choice but a Black Lab (Bitch)
Sheep dog/heading dog will be my next choice after a Vizsla
Oh and as much as people dont like them an electric collar saves ya hips
Hamish
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love my cocker spaniel......my fault I didnt go to reputable breeder so now have an 11 year old blind dog with huge heart for the hunt....
current bitch is mongrel...beardy/lab/gsp
both are biddable
lab is obvious choice as will be happy to just lie in sun and enjoy your company on days when hunting isnt going to happen...but my cocker is the same....
It's important that the dog can retrieve and is self motivated to do so.
These interest me. They have quite a good face book page.
Cesky Fousek New Zealand – A New Breed of Versatile Gun Dog On Our Shores
Pointer but I am biased and in your case perhaps one not from a pup (so the mad stage has passed)
Will retrieve, has a good On/Off switch . Good on birds, OK on deer (at least the first 2 were). great in the house and good company anywhere
Bad points are they suffer the cold.
Yes the wire wasn't too bad down here but he still shook and shivered if I didn't dry him pretty quick or keep him busy
I really think I have answered my own question but just thought someone as @Tahr may have a different perspective.
Dog will be down south, so cold winters hot summers in the central otago regions.
Wirehunt was doing his best to give me a whippet last night, now that is not going to happen.:)
Chesapeake ? summers too hot?
You've always like labs so why would you not go back to what you know and like
Words of wisdom Harry.
Settled inside ten posts. Job done. What a place.
When your looking at a dog to last you for the rest of your hunting days, it’s no time to experiment. I’ve had a few breeds in the last 20yrs, and my next will be a blue heeler, as that’s the one I miss the most.
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@Ginga runs one of these and the "Hyena" is as good if not better than any dog I've seen.Quote:
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He's right..had that many workin pot lickers myself over many yrs.Quote:
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If I wanted another at 72 plus I'd consider a lab,but I dont.
Got a mate who has. rather had them.Every time I went around there, if i didn't watch out, I got my calves and the back of my ankles nipped.Quote:
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Possibly not the most grandchild friendly dog.
Ok Muzza, Labrador it is.:)
How is that 22 magnum going.
@Tahr
I made contact , blokes name is Andrew McCrory. He seem a pretty down to earth guy . I'll see where it takes me.
Thanks.
I had one toddler at the time I had Roy, I’ve got a 3,5,and 7 yr old now and wouldn’t be concerned about owning another heeler as mine never nipped. That’s an owner issue.Quote:
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MY mate had them fetching Ducks without any worry, Pretty smart hounds really and a good size , not too big, nor too small
How much exercise do yours need MSL ?
Mine retrieved ducks and bailed pigs. The heeler, I had when I was doing rural work, tree felling and heavy machinery on farms/quarries, so he was with me all day every day, running free. So the exercise he got was going for a hunt, playing fetch for an hour, or just running round whilst I worked.
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Im on my second blue heeler cross and will get another, my current one is completly deaf and going blind but she is so loyal and always good around kids
Over the years I’ve had 2 the both of them a few years apart all they wanted to do was nip and scrap the other dogs and try and nip a bailed pig. Got to the stage where my dogs wouldn’t go under a fence because e away to a cattle farmer. Never bit or growled people nut fuck they fight, not a desired trait on a pigdog.
My neighbour had one called Blue ( very original) and it was a bit of a yappy critter. Of course you can't tell a breed by 1 or 2 dogs but I had the feeling she was a bit of an Aussie grumpy tart ( the dog not the neighbour :) actually the best neighbour I've ever had. Used to text me to say she had hung dinner on the fence and I'd get home to a casserole or walnut loaf waiting on the front fence. Of course she had to move away. Shit what a rant :wtfsmilie: )
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I think Jake is no longer in NZ. I talked to him years ago about getting one. Not for me as his line had no protection or guarding instincts. A dog to me must be able to do multiple roles and the GWP fits the bill, for me in my lines of work.
@jakewire i can give you Baz the Vets number if you want another opinion on the breed. He did have one up until last year
Jake is back in NZ and I understand the Cesky Fousek club also have recently imported a new male. No doubt the waiting list for a pup is quite long though.Quote:
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@bigbear
Thanks
Pm Me please.
Agree. Get a chocolate if you want something different... Or a fox red one...Quote:
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Pathway is almost clear.
Replacements are being semi openly discussed.
Established plants and bushes seem to be the stumbling block
She called the Wire pup the "Thousand Dollar Destroyer."
Better get to the plant nursery then?Quote:
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Went to get some Gooseberry bushes today , thought that might help
No-one down here has any.
Did you get another one?
Not yet , negotiations are looking positive though.
Mate this is like asking a person which ute is the best or what makes someone attractive. There are a million answers. You say an all rounder so I assume that means you want a retrieve as well as an indicate. If so, that narrows it right down. If you want a steady indicator then the versatiles can be a challenge as they are actually bred and designed to range and quarter as much as point. They can be pushy in the bush when you want them in close but if you are a good trainer and get a really well bred and really placid one you will be fine. They are a slow maturing dog. I would run a million miles from any trendy or new breeds. Don't be someone's guinea pig. Go with safe. You alone can decide what safe looks like. To be frank I would agree re the black lab. A small stature bitch. It wont be a flashy indicator but you wont be chasing it around either. It will still lock up and they track really well. No issues with the cold either and great with the grand kids. But get a good one. As I always say, talk is cheap, performance is everything. Get something you have the greatest chance of working. Personally myself I would never own a WHP. I have seen too many (the majority) with issues. But the few nice ones I have seen were lovely dogs that I really liked. Same old story, well bred and a good handler and plenty work is a good recipe for success. Two more things. You must get the breed or type that excites you and you like the look of. If you like WHPs then go that way and pick well and train them so they dont piss you off. And dont rush the choice of a pup. A year choosing or waiting for the right one is well worth it for the next 12 years. Enjoy and report back. Cheers H.