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Take a learner on. Every industry wants experience. But you can't get it if nobody it training.
At least you end up with exactly what you want with no bad habits.

Originally Posted by bully

Take a learner on. Every industry wants experience. But you can't get it if nobody it training.
At least you end up with exactly what you want with no bad habits.

We are taking on an apprentice this week and I'm surprised at the calibre of young people we have seen.

Originally Posted by kiwijames

We are taking on an apprentice this week and I'm surprised at the calibre of young people we have seen.

Good or bad surprise?

Originally Posted by Beaker

Good or bad surprise?

Good surprise. Punctual, tidy, willing and keen.

Originally Posted by kiwijames

We are taking on an apprentice this week and I'm surprised at the calibre of young people we have seen.

You guys are lucky, the engineering company i used to work for, we had a few young guys through the doors over the years and only one of them was any good.

Originally Posted by DPT

You guys are lucky, the engineering company i used to work for, we had a few young guys through the doors over the years and only one of them was any good.

60 replies to a Trademe advert. 9 of them could have started yesterday and I doubt we would have had any problems at all. Obviously an apprentice will be an easier position to fill than a tradesman but they don't just come out of the Weetbix box. We have to train them first and engineering as a whole (actually all trades) forgot to do that for probably for the last 10 years.

Originally Posted by bully

Take a learner on. Every industry wants experience. But you can't get it if nobody it training.
At least you end up with exactly what you want with no bad habits.

I need someone with skills that I dont have, the cad/cam side of things. My days are so busy its getting a struggle to set and run the cnc gear, we needs someone that can hit the shop floor running, they need to be able to run all the cnc gear without me being there.

Originally Posted by Tussock

I have had an eye on job listings for about four years. I have noted the huge number of "experience wanted" adds relative to incredibly rare introductory positions. This is going to bite New Zealand in the arse so hard its not even funny. Sweeping retirements of boomers over the next decade, huge skill shortages and no one in training.

Totally agree its better to build a skilled employee from scratch without the bad habits. You have absolute free reign when it comes to talent, if everyone is hiring for experience over talent.

I spose if I wanted to put the company on hold for ten years I could train someone . We need someone that can hit the floor running with a lot more experience than I have at running these machines. What we want is not something that can be learnt in a couple of years...

Originally Posted by DPT

I spose if I wanted to put the company on hold for ten years I could train someone . We need someone that can hit the floor running with a lot more experience than I have at running these machines. What we want is not something that can be learnt in a couple of years...

most of us understand your point and without knowing how your setup it is pretty rich to tell you how to run your business, a company i sub to has two young fellas on the books doing bits and pieces mixed up with the old school guys he has so they learn good sound skills before they are lost. in your setup is there a place for a apprentice and one of your current guys to step up to the roll you need to fill, is all your work cnc or is the manual lathes and mills. apprenticeship nz pay a large part of their wage to which might help with operating cost. good luck finding the right person.

Originally Posted by mucko

most of us understand your point and without knowing how your setup it is pretty rich to tell you how to run your business, a company i sub to has two young fellas on the books doing bits and pieces mixed up with the old school guys he has so they learn good sound skills before they are lost. in your setup is there a place for a apprentice and one of your current guys to step up to the roll you need to fill, is all your work cnc or is the manual lathes and mills. apprenticeship nz pay a large part of their wage to which might help with operating cost. good luck finding the right person.

No not at this stage, maybe in the future we could look at an apprentice but only when we had a few more guys on, our work is both manual and cnc. We don't have anyone else here that has any experience with cnc's apart from our young worker that just pushes the start button on one of the lathes, he has no interest in doing anymore than that, even if he did we would still need someone here with the experience to take him under his wing so to speak.