I didn't think you could go with a short crew, I don't know the rules around that sort of thing.
My old man is in a rural fore force on the other side of town, they often have to go alone
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I didn't think you could go with a short crew, I don't know the rules around that sort of thing.
My old man is in a rural fore force on the other side of town, they often have to go alone
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Na we need 2 at least.
Nothing to stop us responding in our own vehicle with the kit and radio:)
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Aloud to go as long as you advise that your short crewed is that correct? I'm not high up enough to know but thought I heard that somewhere
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I don't know either, every time I ask a question like that I seem to get as many different answers as people I ask hahaQuote:
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Yeah not sure. We are very lucky have about 26 members and usually about ten during the day that can turnout
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That must be nice. We have around 17 total but only potentially six day time. Lucky e only have around sixty calls a year
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I've been told we can, right or wrong I don't no, we often go short and co respond with another crew.
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Yeah, All we can do is what the officers tell us, their ass at the end of the day
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Full crew is officer + 3 BA wearers. Anything less is short crewed when responding in your truck.
We have a operational support van used for medicals. Minimum of two. One must be a class 1 or 2 ERD. Medical 1st responders (this is a rank) are PHEC trained.
Brads - be cautious responding on your own. This is for yours and the patients safety.
Turning out in your own car opens a whole lot of legal issues if something goes wrong. Hard to sit on the station and not do anything.
Did station checks this morning.
Here is our old girl, you guys with laugh:)
1988 Hino with 22,000km on the clock:)
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Our is the same except it done about 35ks
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actually brads, ours trumps yours. ours is a 1990 but exactly the same from what i can see. It's good we have it, we do get across paddocks etc from time to time and it's no hassle for it, i hear the new ones are a little delicate haha
Mitsi with 39Ks
Type ones are a great tool for rural/urban districts. 2000L. Hose reel, 41mm and LPD. Ideal for scrubbies, car fires, knock down a house fire as well as anything else we are likely to get.
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ours also still has the hino badge haha
next time i'm down there i'll take one
Seen it a UFBA conferences.
Not keen on the crew sitting in the back and looking at a TV screen to see what up the front
Emergency services open day on Queens Wharf.
Pack the kids on the train to Britomart and walk across the road. @Ryan let me know if you go. Be good to meet Liam
More info here Home Page - Staying Alive
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@sako75 We'll be there. :thumbsup: Be good to meet you and your little one too.
Any one doing the sky tower challenge?
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Yeah right, I'm a sales rep by day. Too many Flat Whites and lunches. Might go along and support a couple of our guys.
Take it you are?
Yep I am, 2nd time round. Look for thesehttp://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15...8ef8d063f0.jpghttp://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15...6489a1b7b3.jpg
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Awesome @stumpy would like them
Going to have a lashQuote:
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sweet looking helmets .... I must pull finger and do more flame jobs .....
@BRADS
Here's our beast haha
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She was a bad arvo for this guy.
Thoughts too his family.
http://m.police.govt.nz/mobile-news-article/36021
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Hate those type of calls, sad for all concerned
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Our unit launched our new (to us) vessel on sat
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Awesome
How many crew does she take?
I think these 2 advertising photos are symbolic of not just fire vollies but volunteering in general
(hope I haven't breach any copyright laws posting them. if so will delete them)
Can see jakesae101's new Coastguard in a similar state without vollies. Be some empty choppers without SAR crews in them. Not to mention Lifeline and other organizations
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Opertaionally probably a crew of 6 master , helm , nav , foward observer , 2 rear deck crew. training probably 8 minimum crew is around 3 i think
Another Hoorah for the mighty 6/1
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[QUOTE=sako75;333827]I think these 2 advertising photos are symbolic of not just fire vollies but volunteering in general
(hope I haven't breach any copyright laws posting them. if so will delete them)
Can see jakesae101's new Coastguard in a similar state without vollies. Be some empty choppers without SAR crews in them. Not to mention Lifeline and other organizations
Volunteers do a fantastic job, but there is always two sides to every story, if volly Fire Fighters didn't man Stations like Silverdale , Queenstown, Pukekohe and West Harbour etc the Fire Service would be forced to put in Career Staff. So in these specific cases these Vollys are actullay doing a disservice to their community....
can you please clarify what you mean "disservice to their community"Quote:
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Sure , these stations I have mentioned have risks that warrant a Career Station ,due to the large numbers of people and property. It is not fees-able that the Fire Service have Career staff in every town in New Zealand and in smaller district towns in New Zealand the Volunteers do a great job.Quote:
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However these specific stations I have mention are the minority. The Fire Service will not push out a Volunteer Station, infact the will do all they can to support Vollies.
They only way the Fire Service will put in a Career station is when the Vollies cant man it any more and negotiate with the Fire Service to take over with career staff.
So yes in my opinion Station like Queenstown, Silverdale, West Harbour and Pukekohe should be manned by career staff 24/7 but they wont because the vollies are doing it for free....
You do realise that the bigger stations with permanent crew are mainly staffed by volleys,Quote:
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Which bigger stations are you referring too ? Wellington , Christchurch, Hamilton , Dunedin, Taupo, Auckland, Whangerai, Napier, Nelson ?
I'm not sure about those ones, @stumpy might help us out.
I do no that Hastings and Masterton have one crew of permanents the rest is all volleys.
They are both big stations, Hastings has a rescue tender, command centre, and 3 or 4 trucks.
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Wow open up a can of worms.
I hear what Mohawk is saying and I have quite strong feelings along the same lines but keep my head down (nearly had it chopped off recently)
Auckland is different than anywhere else
Stations like Westgate? Should they be manned 24/7?
The new Te Atatu station now manned 24/7 with perms after it's relocation. Vollies are now more of an operational support brigade. Not on 1st alarm callout.
Note the perms have the Bronto that was at Avondale. Just the PRT there now. Vollies have their own truck. Many years ago when Pt. Chev closed down. the community was told there would always be 2 appliance at Avondale for them.
Glen Eden was once a volly station until their numbers dropped too low and now they are no more.
What will happen to Henderson when it moves?
The Fire Service is on a winner paying for vollies to man stations that demographically should be 24/7
The day crew are called Yellow watch
Titirangi have a Yellow watch. The vollies there are top notch. The annual callout figures don't warrant having 24/7 paid staff with Glen Eden and Avondale not too far away
This is a subject that will raise heckles on some and disbelief in others
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