Thread: Experienced bowhunter test custom made arrows

Hey there folks ..been a member since 2014 but only confirmed my registration a couple weeks ago so hey ..

I am looking for a experienced compound bow hunter who is keen to try out some customs made micro diameter arrows with broadheads ..

I am a keen enthusiast of tweaking my own equipment and definitely would like to have my own archery/bow hunting business and thought I would start with custom made arrows ..

I have a workshop set up in my garage and would definitely like to have a bowhunter test these custom builds ..

The requirement is I am wanting a bowhunter with a 28.5" draw length ..

3 custom made arrows and broadheads that have been spined so they all flex in the same manner ..this set up flys like a dart and pounds like a jackhammer

This is a setup I build for myself shooting a 61.5lb Bowtech Carbon Knight set at 28.5" draw the details are as follows (Theme is black & yellow)

- Over all length of arrow from nock groove to tip of broadhead is 28.5" (27" end of outsert)
- Deer Crossing SD hunter 350 micro diameter shaft
- Norway 2.1" fusion vanes (cock vane black, 2x yellow)
- transparent yellow pin nock & aluminium insert
- black aluminium outsert
- broadhead look a like
- 454grains (+-1 grain between the 3 arrows)

My drop away rest is 25" from the nock groove @ full draw ..it has room for another inch (26") before your messing with the outsert which flanges out from 6.1mm - 7.93mm (standard size) ..so if your rest falls within these thresholds give em a crack

Note:
From my experience the broadhead hits the same spot as the field point no messing around with gear (with a tuned setup)

Copy & Paste: https://youtu.be/plmEVRzZb2g (me shooting these in action with a field point & broad head @ 50m)

So leave details along with photos of Deer taken and I will carefully choose a candidate

Best Regards




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Forgot to mention these are free test ..


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Bloody good shooting mate. Is it called shooting? Anyway good luck with the test

Originally Posted by Gibo

Bloody good shooting mate. Is it called shooting? Anyway good luck with the test

Hey Gibo ..cheers,as far as I know it is shooting ..I know it sounds or very rifle like but that's all I've known it as ..there is also flinging arrows down range but,it's what I've come to know it as


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I take it that you used same point of aim for both arrows. Would that be normal for broad head and field?id have thought they'd normally have different point of impact. What range could you successfully hit minute of deer, and still retain enough energy for successful kill?

Originally Posted by oraki

I take it that you used same point of aim for both arrows. Would that be normal for broad head and field?id have thought they'd normally have different point of impact. What range could you successfully hit minute of deer, and still retain enough energy for successful kill?

I think broad heads kill by cutting major arteries, or puncturing the heart.
From my limited knowledge of 'stick hurling', every article I've read talks about this goal.
At 300-350 fps launch speed, power factor won't be readable - too slow.
Stalking skill and arrow placement is the trick.

Originally Posted by WallyR

I think broad heads kill by cutting major arteries, or puncturing the heart.
From my limited knowledge of 'stick hurling', every article I've read talks about this goal.
At 300-350 fps launch speed, power factor won't be readable - too slow.
Stalking skill and arrow placement is the trick.

Absolutely WallyR that is the first and foremost ..but the question is what if you don't have that opportunity and his question was merely for me about effective range ..cheers


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Originally Posted by WallyR

I think broad heads kill by cutting major arteries, or puncturing the heart.
From my limited knowledge of 'stick hurling', every article I've read talks about this goal.
At 300-350 fps launch speed, power factor won't be readable - too slow.
Stalking skill and arrow placement is the trick.

Have a look on YouTube as well champ lots of information in real time to look at as well ..cheers


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Originally Posted by WallyR

I think broad heads kill by cutting major arteries, or puncturing the heart.
From my limited knowledge of 'stick hurling', every article I've read talks about this goal.
At 300-350 fps launch speed, power factor won't be readable - too slow.
Stalking skill and arrow placement is the trick.

Actually "power level" being read in archery is kinetic energy and momentum. Most bullets will fail vs an arrow in the momentum part of the equation.

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Originally Posted by oraki

I take it that you used same point of aim for both arrows. Would that be normal for broad head and field?id have thought they'd normally have different point of impact. What range could you successfully hit minute of deer, and still retain enough energy for successful kill?

Absolutely Oraki ..most of the time I'm having to adjust my broadheads to follow my field points by adjusting my rest but with this setup I didn't need to adjust it at all is why I love it ..

but a kool thing a world renowned archer/bowhunter John Dudley stated why change the rest if you are getting consistent groups irrelevant if they don't hit by the field points just adjust your sight ..sounded logical to me ..and on question number

2) I have watched a guy by the name of Tim Wells who shoots compound no peep no pins smoke a mulie deer at 100 yards (on the run) ..it ran on for another 50yrds before keeling over ..

also because there are so many variables I suppose like calibre of ammo and rifle in relation to length, weight and type of broadhead in bowhunting it has the momentum to still be affective out to 200m (gravity plays its part) but this is all done by research and theory as I have not come across someone who has dropped a deer at that distance ..

the main reasons we don't have a scope for that distance and because you are having to hold the bow still in the air without having the ability to prop it against or on something the wind plays a major factor in been able to maintain composure for that distance

But with bow design these days we are having the ability to shoot further distance with great accuracy efficiency and being able to pull more weight (not that pulling more weight is a necessity) but pulling 70lb bow 5 yrs ago you had to be a gym junkie were as these days it feels like pulling 50lb because of cam efficiency riser design limb advances so yea that is what I've come to understand ..

For me anything 20-30m is child's play even with the heart pumping 40-50 I'm very confident 60-70m is where the confidence is above average only because I am not practicing out to that distance and beyond ..well not yet anyway, but Cameron Hanes (pro bowhunter) doubles his distance @ practice ..so he practices 160 yards to feel extremely confident that he is smashing x's at 80 yards

there maybe others out there with a different opinion but that's what makes the world an exciting and fun place ..as we are humans not robots ..apologies if it's a long reply


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Originally Posted by Kiwininja

Absolutely Oraki ..most of the time I'm having to adjust my broadheads to follow my field points by adjusting my rest but with this setup I didn't need to adjust it at all is why I love it ..

but a kool thing a world renowned archer/bowhunter John Dudley stated why change the rest if you are getting consistent groups irrelevant if they don't hit by the field points just adjust your sight ..sounded logical to me ..and on question number

2) I have watched a guy by the name of Tim Wells who shoots compound no peep no pins smoke a mulie deer at 100 yards (on the run) ..it ran on for another 50yrds before keeling over ..

also because there are so many variables I suppose like calibre of ammo and rifle in relation to length, weight and type of broadhead in bowhunting it has the momentum to still be affective out to 200m (gravity plays its part) but this is all done by research and theory as I have not come across someone who has dropped a deer at that distance ..

the main reasons we don't have a scope for that distance and because you are having to hold the bow still in the air without having the ability to prop it against or on something the wind plays a major factor in been able to maintain composure for that distance

But with bow design these days we are having the ability to shoot further distance with great accuracy efficiency and being able to pull more weight (not that pulling more weight is a necessity) but pulling 70lb bow 5 yrs ago you had to be a gym junkie were as these days it feels like pulling 50lb because of cam efficiency riser design limb advances so yea that is what I've come to understand ..

For me anything 20-30m is child's play even with the heart pumping 40-50 I'm very confident 60-70m is where the confidence is above average only because I am not practicing out to that distance and beyond ..well not yet anyway, but Cameron Hanes (pro bowhunter) doubles his distance @ practice ..so he practices 160 yards to feel extremely confident that he is smashing x's at 80 yards

there maybe others out there with a different opinion but that's what makes the world an exciting and fun place ..as we are humans not robots ..apologies if it's a long reply


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIH0bz0Lz0w

Originally Posted by Stickbow

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIH0bz0Lz0w

Yes a tahr in good ole NZ ..remember this one as well cheers for the share Stickbow and also the one with the baboon that was causing havoc at the water hole ..this guy is a freak of nature


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Originally Posted by Kiwininja

Yes a tahr in good ole NZ ..remember this one as well cheers for the share Stickbow and also the one with the baboon that was causing havoc at the water hole ..this guy is a freak of nature


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Hey bro if you want to sometime I can pop over and show ya a few things I built for tuning my bows at home. I'm. In tauranga but work in auckland. I can also put you in touch with a guy in matamata that bow hunts too. He's a good bugger.

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I suppose this video was a demonstration that 20m with this arrow you could do it with your eyes closed


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Nice production on your video.
Can't comment on your arrows as i no nothing about archery, but seeing the old rugby grounds brings back some memories.
born and raised in matamata.
Cheers.