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    Question Speed Beads/Nocks - Placebo effect or true?

    Whilst I wait for my Bow to arrive, I've been watching the zillion uTubery films on Compound Bows. I now think I understand, pretty much everything, about the process of setting up and tuning and sighting in, a Bow and it's Arrows.

    When I do it in person, it will be hours of fun, for weeks and more it seems.

    The one thing I can't quite get, is the physics behind these speed beads or speed nocks, that people place on the Compound Bow string, typically, a group or two, a few cm away from where the string meets the Cam.

    I've seen several blokes, who appear to know what they are talking about, take, before and after measurements, of the arrow speed through a chronograph and seemingly gaining a speed increase of up to 10 fps.

    I first thought, that if the bloke had drawn his bow string another cm or two, he could get a faster arrow, and I was prepared to disbelieve.

    Then I started noticing that the flagship Bows, from top name manufacturers, came with these speed beads pre-installed.

    Then I tried to see , from a physics point of view, what effect these beads may have. The 1st and obvious conclusion would be, that they add weight to the string and thereto, slow the string ever so slightly. Ergo, slower arrow.

    But then I wondered about harmonics. Then I thought, that the extra inertia, that has to be overcome on arrow release, should really slow things down.

    I can't really see any argument, one way or the other, that is sensible for speed beads, the harmonic idea may have legs, thinking of music, and how a string has standing harmonic wave forms, at certain points.

    This is complicated, by thinking :: at full draw, a bow string is effectively two anchored strings, Cam to D Loop and D Loop to Cam. When the arrow is released, these two strings become shorter and shorter until the arrow de-nocks and then it's one string again.

    High speed video footage I've seen, shows the string behaving more or less as two straight strings, until the arrow nears de-nocking, at which point the string dances about like limp spaghetti at a disco.

    So, I'm going to ask a friend of mine who can think in the language of Physics, what he thinks. And I ask here in this forum, what do you guys/gals think? Has anyone had practical experience of these speed beads? does anyone know the Physics to do with this?

    I can't help thinking that, like having the right logo, on the running shoes of an athlete, it may well be that speed beads, make the Archer feel better and thereto shoot better. But I'd like to know definitively.

    This'll keep me occupied for months.



    This chap seems to be someone who does things correctly, his reviews often involve spread sheets and multiple tests, and proper statistical analysis.

    https://youtu.be/HrUwQnmQC1I



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    an article:
    https://www.bowhunting.com/blog/2013...ase-bow-speed/



    How to measure arrow speed without a chronograph

    https://youtu.be/tazuavGL6g8

 

 

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