Norsk your view is fine in theory but in practical reality has not worked so I am with Tommy on this. We have had a welfare state in New Zealand for several decades now but instead of the various benefits being viewed as a hand up for which there should be gratitude they are seen as a hand out to which there is an overwhelming sense of entitlement by many of the recipients. I firmly believe that the choices a person makes can overcome any social disadvantage that they have the misfortune to be born into.
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