Handguns for Self Defense in the USA.

I like the little J frame S&Ws the centenialls , fired one of the then new ones back in 91 , very nice wee gun , good for weak side , jacket pocket carry , shot thru the jacket if needed .
Also shot one of the SS PPKs , nice , in my limited shooting with pistols , I have had more drama with modern revolvers , than modern autos .
If the ejector rod unscrews just a little on a smith , it stops you opening the cyclinder .

I like Glocks & Sigs , and hate the beretta type 92s , mate had one of the new 92Fs , flawed design , when operating the slide , alot of people end up flicking down the combined decock / safety , which decluthes the trigger mech , under stress I have seen cops , think their pistol is malfunctioning , and do stoppage drills over & over , not realising that they have tripped the safety on by accident .

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Originally Posted by Gibo

You are one of us now kuz :D

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exactly Gibo, even gotten to the point where on Sat I was in the pub screaming for team in black, no going back now :o

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Originally Posted by ebf

exactly Gibo, even gotten to the point where on Sat I was in the pub screaming for team in black, no going back now :o

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You are doomed now ebf.

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Originally Posted by norsk

In New Zealand there are calls to arm Police.

Would you say that weapon retention in an arrest situation is paramount? Therefore are you more likely to draw your weapon as well as have a partner covering you, if you are arresting someone?

My fear regarding arming Police in New Zealand,is that there will be a spate of suspects shot due to weapons being drawn during or prior to arrests.

Secondly,I feel that the carrying of a Pistol creates a barrier between the Public and the Police.Bear in mind that the Police in New Zealand have traditionally been unarmed.

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That boat has sailed. The last two NZ constables Ive bumped into have both been holding AR15's. After experiencing that my opinion changed, it was a crap experience but probably better for the officers haha. Having them armed in shopping malls is not so bad (I'm originally an Aussie but been here for 10yrs). They just cruise around doing their thing. Having them say "why were you speeding mate?" tends to result in you saying "Sir..." instead of "F off C#@t" like half the dropkicks that live here in NZ.
As for will we be better off in the long run? No, but not because the police will be armed. The general trend is that criminals get guns and that supply only builds over time. There are freakin heaps more guns on the loose in Australia nowadays and that's despite ALL the draconian laws they inflicted on law abiding citizens.

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Originally Posted by Dead is better

That boat has sailed. The last two NZ constables Ive bumped into have both been holding AR15's. After experiencing that my opinion changed, it was a crap experience but probably better for the officers haha. Having them armed in shopping malls is not so bad (I'm originally an Aussie but been here for 10yrs). They just cruise around doing their thing. Having them say "why were you speeding mate?" tends to result in you saying "Sir..." instead of "F off C#@t" like half the dropkicks that live here in NZ.
As for will we be better off in the long run? No, but not because the police will be armed. The general trend is that criminals get guns and that supply only builds over time. There are freakin heaps more guns on the loose in Australia nowadays and that's despite ALL the draconian laws they inflicted on law abiding citizens.

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Ha ha kettle black, I've seen the form of your countrymen in person and on the TV too :D

territory cops tv show comes to mind .... just feral out that way .... mind you some of the worst look to be kiwi ....... cough cough