Thread: .223 for the Roar

I am liable to want to shoot him in the shoulder...

Originally Posted by JohnDuxbury

I am liable to want to shoot him in the shoulder...

I recon you just answered your own question then.

Shot loads of roaring stags with Hornady 55s did a pretty good job mind you Te urewera stags .

Personally I like the 60-63gn projectiles in the 22 cal cases. But they dont do anything a good old 55gn SP wont do. The 55gn Hornady would be my choice, and be prepared to turn down the shot, not cos you're using a 55gn pill, just cos you're using a 22 cal rifle. Placement is paramount.

I have shot 100s of deer with 223 reds fallow pigs it's all shot placement however I won't use 1 through the roar or croak when they r rutted up to much adrenaline especially if u have roared him in had 1 experience with @Joe_90 last year on fallow I put 3 rounds into the boiler room with a 270 we went away to investigate another buck and came back over an hr later and he got up and ended up with another in the boiler room and kept going a neck shot finally dropped him cut his throat 5 min later Joe went to pick up his head and he started thrashing around all clean shots just shows when they are rutted up u can never b under gunned brought a 7mm rem mag this year not having that again

Originally Posted by Padox

I have shot 100s of deer with 223 reds fallow pigs it's all shot placement however I won't use 1 through the roar or croak when they r rutted up to much adrenaline especially if u have roared him in had 1 experience with @Joe_90 last year on fallow I put 3 rounds into the boiler room with a 270 we went away to investigate another buck and came back over an hr later and he got up and ended up with another in the boiler room and kept going a neck shot finally dropped him cut his throat 5 min later Joe went to pick up his head and he started thrashing around all clean shots just shows when they are rutted up u can never b under gunned brought a 7mm rem mag this year not having that again

I would like to see a stag that could survive four .270 shots to the boiler room, a.270 to the neck, and a cut throat. That would be a stag to see. I thought you would finish up with strangling it with your swanndri.

I have thought about this matter, but I have shot deer in the roar before with a .222's and black powder .44-40's and whatnot, I can't see having too much trouble killing a stag with a .223. Unless I meet your immortal beast..! I just havn't used the 70 grain Speer or the 45g TSX.

Originally Posted by JohnDuxbury

I would like to see a stag that could survive four .270 shots to the boiler room, a.270 to the neck, and a cut throat. That would be a stag to see. I thought you would finish up with strangling it with your swanndri.

I have thought about this matter, but I have shot deer in the roar before with a .222's and black powder .44-40's and whatnot, I can't see having too much trouble killing a stag with a .223. Unless I meet your immortal beast..! I just havn't used the 70 grain Speer or the 45g TSX.

Alas I wasn't wearing a swandri that day.
While it does sound like a bungi tale it's accurate.
Personally I'm happy to put the 223 away over the roar and use something with more energy.
If you can make it work I'm genuinely stoked for you! Post up your story after and I'll buy you a beer.

Originally Posted by Padox

I have shot 100s of deer with 223 reds fallow pigs it's all shot placement however I won't use 1 through the roar or croak when they r rutted up to much adrenaline especially if u have roared him in had 1 experience with @Joe_90 last year on fallow I put 3 rounds into the boiler room with a 270 we went away to investigate another buck and came back over an hr later and he got up and ended up with another in the boiler room and kept going a neck shot finally dropped him cut his throat 5 min later Joe went to pick up his head and he started thrashing around all clean shots just shows when they are rutted up u can never b under gunned brought a 7mm rem mag this year not having that again

I was present when a similar thing happened with a Bull Tahr empty mag of .270 and a fair few .308 befor he stopped at the bottom of a bluff he got named terminator Tahr have no idea how he kept going no lungs left

Originally Posted by Kelton

I was present when a similar thing happened with a Bull Tahr empty mag of .270 and a fair few .308 befor he stopped at the bottom of a bluff he got named terminator Tahr have no idea how he kept going no lungs left

Animals can and will do remarkable things, but at the end of the day the only way a stag / bull tahr / whatever else can take so many shots is because none of them connected with bang-flop anatomy, i.e. part of the nervous system or the aorta / pulmonary arteries around the hilar zone. Animals don’t bleed out that fast with double rear lung shots and when the heat is on, even experienced shooters can tend to shoot into the centre mass, which is too far back for a bang-flop.

When we got to the buck his whole front end was jelly and both shoulders broken

or take the 30/06????

Originally Posted by Micky Duck

or take the 30/06????

Aaah, I got plenty of other rifles. That's not really the point. I am not wondering whether I can do it, I am just interested in what people think of those particular bullets. (meaning the 70 grain speer or the 45 grain TSX really, not the 55 grain Hornady)

To be honest, the back story is the wife bought me a CZ527, so now I am to use it.

well as said earlier.the 50 grn ttsx is awesome.....
Alex Gale was using 45grn gs custom monos in his 22-250 before they were popular too....the deer havent changed any. light n fast works if you poke em in resonable place. the faster the better with monos.

Originally Posted by Micky Duck

well as said earlier.the 50 grn ttsx is awesome.....
Alex Gale was using 45grn gs custom monos in his 22-250 before they were popular too....the deer havent changed any. light n fast works if you poke em in resonable place. the faster the better with monos.

Yes, I am thinking I should have tried the 50g TSX rather than the 45g, I think I got seduced by the possiblity of the velocity I could get. Maybe there is still time to try out the 50's.

Originally Posted by Micky Duck

well as said earlier.the 50 grn ttsx is awesome.....
Alex Gale was using 45grn gs custom monos in his 22-250 before they were popular too....the deer havent changed any. light n fast works if you poke em in resonable place. the faster the better with monos.

The Graf Boys used a 22-250.