BC doesn't matter, until you need to dial
That's why I load the 110gr TTSX for bush and the 145gr EDL-X for long range for my mates 270WSM.
Rifle is sighted in for the 145gr ELD-X @ 100m and the TTSX are +1.5in so no drama. Pongas, branches, little trees, it doesn't matter for the TTSX in close combat situations going at 3600fps and they kill big stags exceptional well. The ELD-X on the other hand kill red deer well past 600m. Also good on pigs around 400m so far. They nearly punch through a 5mm hardened disc from a sowing machine at 700m which is pretty impressive for a "soft" bullet I thought!
Personally I struggle with the concept of one bullet fitting every scenario from 10m to 700m...
hmmm I gone other way...170grn round nose for the bush and 140grn sp for the open...got some 110grn ttsx too and stag at about 200mtrs and chammy the same fell over just fine.
Im a bush hobbit at heart and used 270 for 30 plus years and cannot honestly ever think of a projectile blow up on animal OTHER than when I foolishly tried a 110grn hp varmint load on young fellow.......hole size of dinner plate in the hide and screaming wounded animal really put me off that idea FAST.Ive seen that same load stop within a dried cow pat.awesome wallaby load.......
Yes please do @winaa. I got pretty close to perfecting the section process by using some very fine files to finish them, worked really well. I also set up a proper camera and lighting so I could photograph them to capture the fine detail. Unfortunately I’ve never done this with a selection of bullets all at once, usually just two or three, and of course my record keeping and so on is rubbish and I end up not being able to find what I did a few years ago...
There are a few very good selections photographed on the Internet, but I am really keen to start one up again to try and put to bed some of the myths about bullet construction. My pet hate is actually the opposite scenario to the question in this thread, when someone uses a harder bonded bullet or (especially) monolithics for long-range shooting and starts complaining about why it doesn’t work. Barnes for example have some truly bullshit claims on their website about the LRX and it gives me the shits to see guys trying shots at 600 or 700m with these bullets.
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Great thread, really interesting stuff. I've mainly been using plain old 165gr SP in my .308 over the last 10 years or so (plus a bit of a play with a 270 but its gone now). The SPs for 308 have been great, accurate and no issues with terminal performance. Most of my hunting is close stuff; Blue Mts fallow or reds in the bush. However i do occasionally hunt the open country and tahr too. I never had much luck getting SSTs to group well, so tried some Nosler 150gr BTs and whoa tight groups. They should be great for the smaller deer and longer shots but thinking I might need something a bit tougher or heavier for reds up close, and hoping 180gr RN hornady might be the go. Otherwise I might try something like the oryx or accubond. Its a matter of fining something that hits close enough at 100m without stuffing about with the scope.
I could just stick the plain Jane SPs and keep it simple, but where is the fun in that!
"The generalist hunter and angler is a well-fed mofo" - Steven Rinella
well if your lucky like me....the 180s will be close to zero at hundy with the lighter/faster ones about 2" high.
A good cheap bullet that will hold together well for hand loaders is the Federal Fusion. They do them in .270
Yup, when you section the heavier .30 cal Nosler BTs, the lower half of the jacket and the base are that thick it really jumps out at you compared to other bullets. Yet the BT has always had a reputation as being explosive. I looked into this on the Nosler reloading forum and the guys there were very helpful and had some interesting sections that demonstrated that it’s quite a variable bullet from calibre to calibre, and within a certain calibre between the different weights available. Didn’t we look into this @Max Headroom?
@Tahr ‘s suggestion of the Fusion is a good one, another bonded design. The one guy where I spend a lot of time shooting uses these to perfectly good effect in his .308 pig gun, factory ammo, 165gr. And that is generally at extremely close range!
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I have dozens of boxes of bullets bt, gamekings ,eldx ,eldm,sst,accubond and they all do the job about as well as a 50cent spear soft point,
Loaded some 180gr Norma Oryx for my .308 for the roar on the monstrous red stags in the pines around my area. Also some 180gr Partitions. Unfortunately our March and April permits have been cancelled because the area has been locked down, even huge concrete blocks placed in front of the gates.
The Nosler partitions are probably the best overall hunting bullet ever made for close to medium ranges and even though they're nearly to $2 each still well worth it to some.
You would be surprised where the 65gr can anchor a deer including stags. Only issue is during the roar with big wet stags.Their coats seem to become kevlar jackets. However with global warming seems as if they are wearing tee shirts for coats.Mostly in head and neck.With BM2 it is a magical combo.DPT can on spout.
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