Thread: 308 Loads

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I have found 46gr 2208 and a 150 iterloc touching the lands to shoot very well in every 308 I have tried it in (only about 12-14 rifles), mild load in all of them usually 2700-2800.

Originally Posted by jim160

Yet again I agree with ebf. Nothing greater than trying to open an action with a mallet and having your ears ringing even after wearing earmuffs.
Each rifle is different.

The cautions on the sites such as ADI are there to take blame away from them for the loaders potential stupidity of overloading. Better to be cautious than damage the rifle or your head/eyes.

But its your head that will get taken off not mine.

Yes but experience has shown me that the ADI/Hodgdon data is reasonably conservative.

Imagine a blown up rifle in the States disclaimers or not on a manufactures site....

@ebf What is it that you think is so catastrophically bad about a compressed load?

Nothing VC...

If you have an action that can handle it...
If you have worked up to it and ensured that it is safe to use in a particular rifle...
If you take note of the ambient and ammunition temperature when testing, and keep this in mind for future shots...

Here is a little cautionary tale to explain, I have 4 different types of brass that I use for 308, collected over the years. If I take take the brass with the least case capacity, and use my perfectly safe load from some other brass, it generates enough pressure to blow the primer out of the case.... same load, same primer, same rifle, only difference is the brass...

I only ask because pretty much every load I have loaded for 308 has been compressed varying from lightly to "your bloody kidding right?".

No excessive pressure on any of them as slow powder for the weight.

Edit to add

Transferring a load that is already near max into another brass without knowledge of its volume and hardness is dumb, dumber than asking what works for others on the internet for sure.

Like others have said start low and work up. Personally I've gone up to 50 grains in once fired neck sized cases(more volume than full length sized cases). I definitely wouldn't recommend going that high however as it is hot.

If I was you I'd use AR2206H which for me works better in an 18 inch barrel.

Originally Posted by veitnamcam

Transferring a load that is already near max into another brass without knowledge of its volume and hardness is dumb, dumber than asking what works for others on the internet for sure.

Isn't that exactly what every guy asking for a "top end" load on the internet is automatically doing ?

I must have missed all these guys asking for "top end loads"

This ?

Originally Posted by Shootm

Only getting a gauge as to where guy's end up at with this combo.

Originally Posted by ebf

This ?

One has to assume so he has some idea where he might "end up at"

Anyone who wants to run a starting load in an unknown gun near the max is someone I do not want to be near when the trigger is pulled.

Originally Posted by veitnamcam

@ebf What is it that you think is so catastrophically bad about a compressed load?

Once you get to compressed then the pressures can climb really fast and its not something you should be doing as a beginner, especially as Ive yet to find a good reason that you have to anyway.

Originally Posted by steven

Anyone who wants to run a starting load in an unknown gun near the max is someone I do not want to be near when the trigger is pulled.

Nobody has suggested that tho have they

2208 desnt mind at all.

I would be more concerned about using a powder that quickly spikes near max than compressing 2208