Thread: 308 Loads

@VC But when you comment on 46gr that is exactly what you imply. So an an example, I am just loading testing for my AR15 and I am starting with 10 rounds at the minimum and going up in 0.5gr but Ive not loaded the max this time around. I also have 3 x 62gr FMJs nominally the same from different manufacturers (and a 55gr CMJ) and I have done the same 40 rounds for each projectile so I have 160rounds to test, (plus my baselines). Maybe I am a bit overly careful but as an engineer Ive seen failures that have injured and even killed ppl.

Yea I am a engineer too.

Usually when things go bad it is due to a moments inattention by somebody.
Like gas bagging to your mate and loading the wrong powder ... leaving a cleaning rod in the barrel etc etc not from reading on the Internet.
You could drive your whole life at 40kph if it makes you feel safe but it wont stop the guy running a stop sign hitting you.

Danger is natures way of weeding out the morons.
Its us with osh etc that keep them around.

@steven @veitnamcam

question for you guys about the term "engineer" in NZ

where I am from an engineer used to be someone with a 4 year degree in engineering and was registered with a professional body (? IPENZ) ... does the same apply here ?

used to be someone with a 4 year practical degree here, now its any twat who fixes computers

haha, yeah - that and "architect"

back in my day, it was something like tradesman (apprentice-ship), then technician (2-3 year polytech), then engineer (varsity).

I always thought that an engineer was the dude next to the driver on a train, how wrong i have been all these years thanks for putting me right

Originally Posted by shooternz

I always thought that an engineer was the dude next to the driver on a train, how wrong i have been all these years thanks for putting me right

Yes that is the only true engineer!

Originally Posted by ebf

@steven @veitnamcam

question for you guys about the term "engineer" in NZ

where I am from an engineer used to be someone with a 4 year degree in engineering and was registered with a professional body (? IPENZ) ... does the same apply here ?

yes and no.

In the UK to be a "chartered" engineer you need to have a 4 year Hons engineering degree (which I have) and be a member of a professional body such as IMechE or CIBSE. Here in NZ I am not sure if there is such a legal status for engineer, I dont believe so. For instance I think "architect" in NZ does, yet its widely mis-used in IT for instance.

yes IPENZ, that is NZ institute for a "real" NZ engineer. I could have joined them but I was already a member of CIBSE and ImechE which was recognised world wide and it was costing me north of $1200 every January just for associate engineer in those 2, eek! (An associate is someone on the path to becoming chartered). Anyway I went off and worked in IT, better pay and way better job security and better work as well. Meanwhile in NZ the no8 bailing wire mentality rules. ie we have ppl who frankly are at best technicians but do cheap work that works most of the time and that customers are happy to pay for, good luck to them.

Originally Posted by veitnamcam

used to be someone with a 4 year practical degree here, now its any twat who fixes computers

f*** mate next time yours breaks I will charge you until your a*s bleeds.

Originally Posted by veitnamcam

Yes that is the only true engineer!

I used to be called "Jones the steam" a particular welsh way, I was quite proud of that actually.

Originally Posted by steven

f*** mate next time yours breaks I will charge you until your a*s bleeds.

Na cheaper to just buy a new one than pay someone to fix it... same as my job

Originally Posted by veitnamcam

used to be someone with a 4 year practical degree here, now its any twat who fixes computers

I might or might not resemble that remark, however it seems many of our customers often tell me they have nephews/sons or they themselves are "very good with computers / electronics etc" and I often ask myself if this is the case them why the fuck did you call me!!!