Thread: 308 long range target projectiles

So interesting options right now are,

a) Nossler 155s (42cents), Sierra 2156 (98cents) may have to pay that premium the 2156s are supposed to be very good.
b) Brass Lapua or Norma
c) Federal match primers
d) ADI 2206h or 2208
e) grains thereof (42 to 47 maybe 50)

f) if its allowed in club guns > 155

Will you be using 2206 at the 1000m this weekend?

Originally Posted by steven

So interesting options right now are,

a) Nossler 155s (42cents), Sierra 2156 (98cents) may have to pay that premium the 2156s are supposed to be very good.
b) Brass Lapua or Norma
c) Federal match primers
d) ADI 2206h or 2208
e) grains thereof (42 to 47 maybe 50)

f) if its allowed in club guns > 155

Will you be using 2206 at the 1000m this weekend?

Also Ive come across this (lapua small primer palma brass),

http://www.google.co.nz/url?sa=t&rct...44770516,d.aGc

Ive seen comment on using rifle brass with the smaller primer as being more accurate when using the savage palma rifle before...

Could you please enlighten me as to what is wrong with the 175 smk if you want a target projectile at half price or less if you are a good bugger?

Originally Posted by steven

To do what with? fishing sinks?

Originally Posted by andyanimal31

Could you please enlighten me as to what is wrong with the 175 smk if you want a target projectile at half price or less if you are a good bugger?

I expect i'll expend 100 rounds plus in developing a specific load and dialing in my scope both for wind and elevation. I know the nosler at 42cents are very good and i can get them in 250lots for as many years into the future as I want. So 100~200 rounds of one lot would be of no use to me, as Id have to re-do the load developement, windage and elevation for a small quantity I couldnt repeat. On top of that its also going to cost me $120 to $500 in range access to test. Even if free they would be a waste of time for FTR as far as I am concerned.

regards

Originally Posted by steven

I expect i'll expend 100 rounds plus in developing a specific load and dialing in my scope both for wind and elevation. I know the nosler at 42cents are very good and i can get them in 250lots for as many years into the future as I want. So 100~200 rounds of one lot would be of no use to me, as Id have to re-do the load developement, windage and elevation for a small quantity I couldnt repeat. On top of that its also going to cost me $120 to $500 in range access to test. Even if free they would be a waste of time for FTR as far as I am concerned.

regards

My mistake, I got the impression you were shitting on the projectile.
The other thing is that you have assumed i had only one or two hundred
If any body interested pm me for numbers and we can put a sharp deal together !

Bump!

155gn Dyers vs. 155gn Noslers?

Kurt, the Noslers seem to be ok for shorts, but a lot of guys were getting issues with them for longer ranges when they go into trans-sconic.

On the 155 side , there is nothing in it between the HBC Dyer Mk2 and the Lapua Scenar. Both are very good projectiles.

Personally I found the Dyers to work better with 2206H, shot superlongs with that combo until I changed to 185's

Cheers, was just interested, I think I still have ~200 dyers so will stick with them

just in case you are interested
Wilheim Arms and Optics

Hornady A-Max .30 cal 168gr projectiles: bulk 250 pack #305026


Now in stock but supplies are very limited.

A few of these hard-to-get match bullets has just arrived.

My indent price until August 15th is $128.00 per packet of 250.

Shelf price after 15/8/2015 will be $145.00

Wilhelm Arms and Optics - Christchurch - Specials

@mikee, the 168 Amax is G7 .230 and has a bearing surface of .472

Compared to a Scenar G7 of .236 and bearing surface of .390. The Dyer is even shorter at .336.

The chances of getting a 168 Amax loaded with enough powder to be effective in a Palma95 or standard 308 chamber with .050 throat is not good. Most of the guys are running 13 twists for 155gr projectiles, so stabilizing 168s could be a problem as well.

If you go to a 10 twist for heavy projectiles, a long throat and Amax 208 would be a better BC option. The trade-off is higher recoil levels for anything over 185. Gun handling is a real issue with 208s and 230s.

Originally Posted by ebf

@mikee, the 168 Amax is G7 .230 and has a bearing surface of .472

Compared to a Scenar G7 of .236 and bearing surface of .390. The Dyer is even shorter at .336.

The chances of getting a 168 Amax loaded with enough powder to be effective in a Palma95 or standard 308 chamber with .050 throat is not good. Most of the guys are running 13 twists for 155gr projectiles, so stabilizing 168s could be a problem as well.

If you go to a 10 twist for heavy projectiles, a long throat and Amax 208 would be a better BC option. The trade-off is higher recoil levels for anything over 185. Gun handling is a real issue with 208s and 230s.

Oh, I just thought they like sounded cheap for a reasonable projectile, If you like to punch paper as much as I do then cost becomes an issue.

hehe, just depends on how far the paper is and how much wind you have to contend with

Originally Posted by ebf

hehe, just depends on how far the paper is and how much wind you have to contend with

Don't own a mortar, only have 6.5's

ive switched to HBC's to gain velocity at 1000yds so at 45gr 2208 I am still supersonic, Nosler's wont make it at 45gr.