Thread: 6.5 creedmoor reloading

Originally Posted by 25/08 IMP

My creedmore is a 18" shooting 143 eldx easily under 1" at 100m doing 2770fps.
Hodgdon Superperformance is a great powder for a lot of calibers.

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oh really? i used the eldx and it did ok, not great. when i got up to around 2750fps the group got too big.
does ok for a large red deer shoulder shot but taking a gamble when trying to headshot with accuracy.

Originally Posted by Moose.

oh really? i used the eldx and it did ok, not great. when i got up to around 2750fps the group got too big.
does ok for a large red deer shoulder shot but taking a gamble when trying to headshot with accuracy.

Mine will hit a 4" gong at 500M if I'm doing my bit

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Originally Posted by 25/08 IMP

Mine will hit a 4" gong at 500M if I'm doing my bit

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thats insane, we are getting very different results, wouldnt mind putting a few of your ammo through my rifle to see what it does.

Originally Posted by 25/08 IMP

My creedmore is a 18" shooting 143 eldx easily under 1" at 100m doing 2770fps.
Hodgdon Superperformance is a great powder for a lot of calibers.

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Thats impressive performance. In my Tikka T3x with a 20" barrel a book max charge of Superformance gives me 2675. A 100fps less with a 2" longer barrel!!

Originally Posted by zeropak

Thats impressive performance. In my Tikka T3x with a 20" barrel a book max charge of Superformance gives me 2675. A 100fps less with a 2" longer barrel!!

I'm showing no pressure but I use Lapua SR brass in a 85 Sako at mag length. My old Tikka .260 18" is doing 2811 same powder and pill.
Maybe 1 grn over book max.

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The only way your going to get any noticeable speed back is to run some strong brass, lapua or peterson, a slow burning magnum powder like superformance or reloader 26, and stuff it full of as much of said powder as you can fit in the case (for rl26 anyway) loading it to what will certainly be above book max/saami rated max pressure.

Dont take this the wrong way, but theres no free lunch. The idea that you can cut off a large portion of a barrel and make up for it with handloading staying within the confines of what saami deem as safe pressures is a dream, especially on smaller bore cartridges. Yes you may be able to get a little back but the only way your making a significant enough increase to put yourself back in the realm of where you were, is to use tough brass, exotic hard to find magnum powders, and load it hot.

Your only alternative is to go to a much lighter bullet like you have which sacrifices energy and bc doing so, and as you have found still may not give you the speed you want without the appropriate faster powder.


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Originally Posted by 6.5 CRD

The only way your going to get any noticeable speed back is to run some strong brass, lapua or peterson, a slow burning magnum powder like superformance or reloader 26, and stuff it full of as much of said powder as you can fit in the case (for rl26 anyway) loading it to what will certainly be above book max/saami rated max pressure.

Dont take this the wrong way, but theres no free lunch. The idea that you can cut off a large portion of a barrel and make up for it with handloading staying within the confines of what saami deem as safe pressures is a dream, especially on smaller bore cartridges. Yes you may be able to get a little back but the only way your making a significant enough increase to put yourself back in the realm of where you were, is to use tough brass, exotic hard to find magnum powders, and load it hot.

Your only alternative is to go to a much lighter bullet like you have which sacrifices energy and bc doing so, and as you have found still may not give you the speed you want without the appropriate faster powder.


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yes i agree, thanks for the input
it is what i am coming to realise as i keep trying different combos and always circle back to factory ammo as the best. I have already tried more reliable powder with as much as i can fit, compressed loads,
but i found that this caliber likes to be seated deeper, so it throws that idea out a bit.

definitely getting closer to just having to accept that what i have is the best i am going to get with a 16 inch barrel, otherwise i need to put a 22 inch barrel back on.

but thats why i am reaching out to others. reloading is all about seeing what a rifle can really do.

Well you already have one thing covered your rifle clearly likes the blade bullets so thats where i would start. Its already proven it can shoot them accurately, you just want them to go faster. After having a look at some load data and trying some stuff in GRT it looks like superformance would be a good bet, around 2750fps looks achievable without getting too silly with pressure.


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Get the 120 blade load it the same length as the factory sako and you’ll probably be right to pick up more speed personally I think you shouldn’t be using a mono that slow 120BT could be a good option

Originally Posted by Kelton

Get the 120 blade load it the same length as the factory sako and you’ll probably be right to pick up more speed personally I think you shouldn’t be using a mono that slow 120BT could be a good option

yes i think i should try this, the factory load is seated quite deep so needed a faster burning powder to fit enough in the case. using a slower powder like 2209 or 760 i couldn't seat the projectile deep enough for the amount of powder

Dich the 748 get a slow burning powder I've found RL 26 or Hodgdon Superperformance the best for speed.
For a barrel that short I would try as Kelton sad Nosler 120BT or 129 ABLR

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Originally Posted by 25/08 IMP

Dich the 748 get a slow burning powder I've found RL 26 or Hodgdon Superperformance the best for speed.
For a barrel that short I would try as Kelton sad Nosler 120BT or 129 ABLR

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only issue i found was a slower burning powder needs MORE powder and cant fit it in the case

Originally Posted by Moose.

only issue i found was a slower burning powder needs MORE powder and cant fit it in the case

Correct, the trick is to find the slowest burning powder that you can fit enough of in the case. Too slow, you wont get enough in to reach peak velocity/pressure, Too fast and you will reach peak pressure with room still to go in the case, and often fall short of target speed.

Without a doubt, out of all the powders currently available, superformance will give you the best velocity with the 120gr blade bullets.

Originally Posted by 6.5 CRD

Correct, the trick is to find the slowest burning powder that you can fit enough of in the case. Too slow, you wont get enough in to reach peak velocity/pressure, Too fast and you will reach peak pressure with room still to go in the case, and often fall short of target speed.

Without a doubt, out of all the powders currently available, superformance will give you the best velocity with the 120gr blade bullets.

ok thanks maybe ill give it a try, so far i tried hornady cx 120gr with win760 and I had a compressed load with seating depth way too far out.

correct me if i am wrong but superformance is a slower burning powder than 760, so wouldnt i have the problem of needing too much powder with not enough space,
appreciate everyones input, im only a beginer reloader.

Originally Posted by Moose.

ok thanks maybe ill give it a try, so far i tried hornady cx 120gr with win760 and I had a compressed load with seating depth way too far out.

correct me if i am wrong but superformance is a slower burning powder than 760, so wouldnt i have the problem of needing too much powder with not enough space,
appreciate everyones input, im only a beginer reloader.

Yes it is slower and will work fine with 120 up to 147grn

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