Thread: 6.5 creedmoor reloading

Originally Posted by Pommy

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What's this Gordon's tool thing? If I'm reading it correctly it's a bit of an eye-opener and worrying.
My loads are showing no pressure signs that you normally get.

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It's the free alternative to QuickLoad. It's very useful for simulating loads to attempt to quantify things such as pressure. Case heads and primers don't really tell you what's going on.

Originally Posted by 25/08 IMP

One question why use barns they need speed to proform, I would use a standard cup and core 129 sp or 120 Nosler BT

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just because barnes was the only lighter 100gr i have come across for hunting bullet., otherwise i would have stick with Sako Blade projectile.

Originally Posted by Kelton

Get the 120 blade load it the same length as the factory sako and you’ll probably be right to pick up more speed personally I think you shouldn’t be using a mono that slow 120BT could be a good option

yes i think i should try this, the factory load is seated quite deep so needed a faster burning powder to fit enough in the case. using a slower powder like 2209 or 760 i couldn't seat the projectile deep enough for the amount of powder

Originally Posted by 25/08 IMP

Mine will hit a 4" gong at 500M if I'm doing my bit

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thats insane, we are getting very different results, wouldnt mind putting a few of your ammo through my rifle to see what it does.

Originally Posted by 25/08 IMP

Dich the 748 get a slow burning powder I've found RL 26 or Hodgdon Superperformance the best for speed.
For a barrel that short I would try as Kelton sad Nosler 120BT or 129 ABLR

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only issue i found was a slower burning powder needs MORE powder and cant fit it in the case

Originally Posted by Micky Duck

Faster and flatter is NOT more accurate. It's faster and flatter....group size dictates accuracy.slower means more drop....end of story.if load is accurate and groups well a bit of extra drop won't matter as you will be/ should be range finding and using drop chart and or dialling if shooting out to range where the extra drop matters.

yes you are dead right, thats what i did on my last hunt, but wouldnt it be nice to have accurate and flatter

Originally Posted by Moose.

only issue i found was a slower burning powder needs MORE powder and cant fit it in the case

Correct, the trick is to find the slowest burning powder that you can fit enough of in the case. Too slow, you wont get enough in to reach peak velocity/pressure, Too fast and you will reach peak pressure with room still to go in the case, and often fall short of target speed.

Without a doubt, out of all the powders currently available, superformance will give you the best velocity with the 120gr blade bullets.

Originally Posted by Moose.

only issue i found was a slower burning powder needs MORE powder and cant fit it in the case

That's where superproformance comes in as it's a ball powder and fills the case nicely

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Originally Posted by 6.5 CRD

Correct, the trick is to find the slowest burning powder that you can fit enough of in the case. Too slow, you wont get enough in to reach peak velocity/pressure, Too fast and you will reach peak pressure with room still to go in the case, and often fall short of target speed.

Without a doubt, out of all the powders currently available, superformance will give you the best velocity with the 120gr blade bullets.

ok thanks maybe ill give it a try, so far i tried hornady cx 120gr with win760 and I had a compressed load with seating depth way too far out.

correct me if i am wrong but superformance is a slower burning powder than 760, so wouldnt i have the problem of needing too much powder with not enough space,
appreciate everyones input, im only a beginer reloader.

does anyone know why i cannot view the buys sell swap thread on the NZHS site?

Originally Posted by Moose.

ok thanks maybe ill give it a try, so far i tried hornady cx 120gr with win760 and I had a compressed load with seating depth way too far out.

correct me if i am wrong but superformance is a slower burning powder than 760, so wouldnt i have the problem of needing too much powder with not enough space,
appreciate everyones input, im only a beginer reloader.

Yes it is slower and will work fine with 120 up to 147grn

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Originally Posted by Moose.

does anyone know why i cannot view the buys sell swap thread on the NZHS site?

Not enough posts yet, superformace is a very fine powder fit more than enough in every case iv tried it in

Originally Posted by Kelton

Not enough posts yet, superformace is a very fine powder fit more than enough in every case iv tried it in

yeah sweet,
ok sounds like i should give superformance a go, if you guys think ill be able to get enough powder in with seating depth

factory reload data shows Vihtavuori 550 with COL 2.82 inch and 41.4 g with a full case.
so i would need to exceed that charge with Superformance, to get similar velocity in my shorter barrel

Originally Posted by Mick Hunter

How much RL16 are you running for that?
I am considering playing the with the 120BT in my creedmoor and use RL 16 at the moment with a 140 sst

44gr in ADG LP brass.

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