I have been using these since they first came on the market. I use them at 2720 out of my 7mm08. They seem pretty good to me. I have taken red deer from 50 out to 600 yards. I have shot some decent sized boars up close and never had one blow up on the shoulder. I have never had one not make it into the chest cavity. It's pretty rare for them to exit though. I really rate them at that speed. Also very accurate.
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