Thread: 7mm ss cs 7mm saum vs 7mmsst

Probably going to go for a 16.5inch proof in 30cal, and run a 300saum as per Kelton advice. After playing with grt, I should get a 155g vld berger moving at around 2888fps with rl17 and a 16.5inch proof barrel, an 18inch for 30cal wild get it going roughly 2925. So not much gain for 1.5inch less length through the bush. I also prefer defiance actions. They feel great, and I wanted a short action, because I have a short action carbon stock sitting here with bottom metal and magazine to fit. And I already have 2x long action defiance.

Originally Posted by Kelton

That looks a nice set up hows that scope go? Iv a friend shopping at the moment and he doesnt like the leupys field of view

Its a Niko Stirling 4-16 FFP Mrad. They are amazing for the money, but obviously scopes that are twice the price are going to be better. I have 3 of them now on various rifles and have been using them for 3 or 4 years with zero issues. They all track properly and do what they should. The only real downside to them is the weight (30mm tube = around 620g) FOV @ 16 power is not the greatest, but I prefer 44mm bells to 50mm.

It wasn't my first choice for this rifle, I just happened to have it in the drawer. I have not decided on the final scope for this rifle. Maybe a Vx3 4.5-14 CDS, but I would prefer something 4-18 or 3-21 that is 600g or less. The Vx3 is nice because its so light.

Originally Posted by SixtyTen

Its a Niko Stirling 4-16 FFP Mrad. They are amazing for the money, but obviously scopes that are twice the price are going to be better. I have 3 of them now on various rifles and have been using them for 3 or 4 years with zero issues. They all track properly and do what they should. The only real downside to them is the weight (30mm tube = around 620g) FOV @ 16 power is not the greatest, but I prefer 44mm bells to 50mm.

It wasn't my first choice for this rifle, I just happened to have it in the drawer. I have not decided on the final scope for this rifle. Maybe a Vx3 4.5-14 CDS, but I would prefer something 4-18 or 3-21 that is 600g or less. The Vx3 is nice because its so light.

Not a bad weight pretty average id have though the swaros are obviously really light and the vx5s maybe 550grams? Awsome il confuse him more with suggesting one the new vx3hd looks primo

never tried one in the higher power range but the older japanese made nikko stirling gold crown 3x9x40 had an amazing field of view..better than many lower powered and fixed power scopes

Originally Posted by SixtyTen

Its a Niko Stirling 4-16 FFP Mrad. They are amazing for the money, but obviously scopes that are twice the price are going to be better. I have 3 of them now on various rifles and have been using them for 3 or 4 years with zero issues. They all track properly and do what they should. The only real downside to them is the weight (30mm tube = around 620g) FOV @ 16 power is not the greatest, but I prefer 44mm bells to 50mm.

It wasn't my first choice for this rifle, I just happened to have it in the drawer. I have not decided on the final scope for this rifle. Maybe a Vx3 4.5-14 CDS, but I would prefer something 4-18 or 3-21 that is 600g or less. The Vx3 is nice because its so light.

If you are thinking of the vx3 3.5-14 have a close look at eye relief I know 3 people that had them and sold them just as quick

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Just as a hint, I think nz Asia have a few kimber mountain ascent in 280ai.

And this morning I saw a Remington 7 in 7 saum, factory stainless fluted in a nice wooden stock at shooter ready in Cambridge.

Also, if buying a defiance , unless you go with their Anti action, why not going straight with their Remington 7 footprint instead of the Remington 700 sa footprint. That would make sense if your are not going to have any extended magazine.

Originally Posted by Friwi

Just as a hint, I think nz Asia have a few kimber mountain ascent in 280ai.

And this morning I saw a Remington 7 in 7 saum, factory stainless fluted in a nice wooden stock at shooter ready in Cambridge.

Also, if buying a defiance , unless you go with their Anti action, why not going straight with their Remington 7 footprint instead of the Remington 700 sa footprint. That would make sense if your are not going to have any extended magazine.

Hes already got the sa 700 stock defiance is no longer exporting so whats in the country is whats left in NZ most of which are ordered for customers wouldnt think theirs many as stock

Originally Posted by Friwi

Just as a hint, I think nz Asia have a few kimber mountain ascent in 280ai.

And this morning I saw a Remington 7 in 7 saum, factory stainless fluted in a nice wooden stock at shooter ready in Cambridge.

Also, if buying a defiance , unless you go with their Anti action, why not going straight with their Remington 7 footprint instead of the Remington 700 sa footprint. That would make sense if your are not going to have any extended magazine.

Did you see a price??

Originally Posted by Kelton

Hes already got the sa 700 stock defiance is no longer exporting so whats in the country is whats left in NZ most of which are ordered for customers wouldnt think theirs many as stock

Correct, got 2 la defiance already would like somthing different. And have a Ken Henderson sa stock. So wanted to build a short action.

If I were doing a short action 7mm it'd be a 7mm-6.5PRC.
Hornady and Lapua brass being the main reasons, just size up neck with a mandrel and away you go.

I have a box of 50 new adg 7mm saum brass also!

I have a short Saum wildcat described in page 4 in here wildcat appreciation thread.

It's a fair bit of work to get underway, and you need good quality soft brass. I agree with previous posters that if you have a short action where you can seat out to he lands from mag-loaded rounds then sticking with the Saum would be the go. Something like a rem 700 short action with a wyatt mag box might do it.

I'm going to build a second saum as I love caliber. I'm thinking it needs to be different to my standard long range dial up saum so might run monos with a small bdc style scope.
Probably hammer hunter 143s and Barnes lrx 145 that I have on the shelf

Originally Posted by Beetroot

If I were doing a short action 7mm it'd be a 7mm-6.5PRC.
Hornady and Lapua brass being the main reasons, just size up neck with a mandrel and away you go.

No offence, but what does that do that a.284 Win can't?

Isn't a .284 not a short action?