Thread: 7mm08 suppressed loads

Same here re: the pills to lazy to type projectiles.
But I hate the hut discussions/internet discussions around 'ballistic tips" and how they blow up/pencil threw only good up close no good up close etc etc.
When you eventually sift threw the bulshit 95% of them are not even talking about "ballistic tips" they are talking about some bullet with a plastic tip.

Originally Posted by veitnamcam

Same here re: the pills to lazy to type projectiles.
But I hate the hut discussions/internet discussions around 'ballistic tips" and how they blow up/pencil threw only good up close no good up close etc etc.
When you eventually sift threw the bulshit 95% of them are not even talking about "ballistic tips" they are talking about some bullet with a plastic tip.

You wanna fill me in then? Because ballistic tip to me is a bullet with a plastic tip and core with lead around that then the copper jacket like the SSTs. Cheers

Its incorrect but bullet just sounds like the whole cartridge to me. Irrational ?

As sneeze said "Ballistic tip" is a nosler trade mark For what was originally designed and intended as a varmint bullet IE extremely frangible (blows apart)
They proved very accurate(for most) and inevitably they were used for big game resulting in both hammer of thor and epic fails as you would expect.
Thus they were redesigned to be slightly less frangible but still one of the most frangible pills out there.

Lumping all plastic tips together as "ballistic tips" is confusing and unfair to the manufacturers. The performance of all the plastic tip PILLS varys widely.
Match the PILL (man Im getting lazy now) to the intended IMPACT velocity.

Yeah pictures are good.
Well it seems irrational and pedantic rules so: amax and ballistic tip close? yeah I can see that, but what about an accubond? identical to a ballistic tip in every way except it has a bonded core.Its even made by Nosler but in terminal performance terms they are chalk and cheese.The barnes TTSX has a polymer tip but has no lead at all and performs nothing like a ballistic tip .I know a few guys that have red hair,calling then all "ginga" gets a little confusing so I use the names they where given and everyone knows who I'm talking about.Well as much as anyone ever knows what I talking about.

Originally Posted by sneeze

Yeah pictures are good.
Well it seems irrational and pedantic rules so: amax and ballistic tip close? yeah I can see that, but what about an accubond? identical to a ballistic tip in every way except it has a bonded core.Its even made by Nosler but in terminal performance terms they are chalk and cheese.The barnes TTSX has a polymer tip but has no lead at all and performs nothing like a ballistic tip .I know a few guys that have red hair,calling then all "ginga" gets a little confusing so I use the names they where given and everyone knows who I'm talking about.Well as much as anyone ever knows what I talking about.

Yeah na I cant look, all my books are home and i wont be for a while,but thats sort of how I remember it only I thought the original design was for a hunting bullet wihich turned out to be a good varmint bullet not the other way round,been a good couple of years since I read it though and my memory's not what it used to be.
The couple of balistic tips I'v sectioned accually looked a lot like the old nosler soild base only with a polymer tip.

However you look at it it was redesigned to perform better on big game in certain cals. Varminting is still hunting depending on veiw point

Originally Posted by veitnamcam

However you look at it it was redesigned to perform better on big game in certain cals. Varminting is still hunting depending on veiw point

When it comes to pedantic irrational hijacked threads the point or pointlessness is all in the detail.

This thread has wandered.....
Are you wanting the bullet not to exit to avoid risk to the dogs during the bail?
I would be trying a bullet of soft construction if thats what your after
If you want something to lay the hammer on them up close I would look at something in the 160gr lead nose range