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    Quote Originally Posted by Wildman View Post
    Isnt that Hornady training ammo cheaper than you can reload for?
    Not any more, sadly. Steelcase training ammo has become the stuff of myth, and the brass case training ammo runs around $1 a round.

    Reloading runs around 60c a round, which is now less than nasty old Barnaul costs. Hopefully the training ammo starts making a comeback soon, it is fantastic!

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    Hey Scaggly I full length size and trim if the case wasnt fired in my rifle first time and neck and trim once fired in mine (for .223 & .308) so no risk of cases being too long so besides the length and all that is there any other potential risk with firing neck sized brass in a semi? It feeds well and shoots under 1 inch in my AR. Cheers.

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    Sorry. Been out of town all week.

    On the neck-sizing, just bear in mind that .223 headspaces off the shoulder, and every time you fire a round, the case stretches to fill and seal the chamber, which will see the shoulder move also. Neck sizing doesn't bump the shoulder back into spec.

    Its up to you, but I personally wouldn't want to fire your ammo. You might get lucky 9,999 times out of a 10,000, but that one time it goes wrong it might ruin your whole day (or your rifle, or your face).

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    If you shoot over a thousand rounds a year buy a progressive press. Buy the best quality you can afford. If the reloading bug bites you hard you will upgrade your gear so best to spend the money once if possible.
    I guess it depends on how much spare time you have. You may rather spend your money on rifles, I would rather spend my time shooting my rifles than reloading so the more automated the better in my case.
    Always full length resize with an auto loader and you wont have any issues with cases getting stuck in your chamber from range picked up brass.
    Buy yourself a 223 case gauge as well. This is the best way to check that you have bumped the shoulder back enough (and not too much) to ensure it will fit in your rifle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon View Post
    Buy yourself a 223 case gauge as well. This is the best way to check that you have bumped the shoulder back enough (and not too much) to ensure it will fit in your rifle.
    Yep, best investment I ever made ... particularly if you're just neck sizing and giving the shoulder the odd bump as I do ...
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    What's a good brand of Headspace gauge, was about to order a Lyman one but have seen they have all bad reviews

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    Quote Originally Posted by scaggly View Post
    Sorry. Been out of town all week.

    On the neck-sizing, just bear in mind that .223 headspaces off the shoulder, and every time you fire a round, the case stretches to fill and seal the chamber, which will see the shoulder move also. Neck sizing doesn't bump the shoulder back into spec.

    Its up to you, but I personally wouldn't want to fire your ammo. You might get lucky 9,999 times out of a 10,000, but that one time it goes wrong it might ruin your whole day (or your rifle, or your face).
    Its perfectly normal to neck size and I cant see how its dangerious? If the round is out of spec on the shoulder too far you wont be able to close the bolt, so it cant be dangerious. I bought some wilson gauges and I check the re-sized case with these, if they are OK I fill them. If not I full resize though my shopping list has a shoulder bump die on it.

    You are correct on not firing someone elses neck sized ammo, its not for your gun.
    "I do not wish to be a pawn or canon fodder on the whims of MY Government"

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    Quote Originally Posted by steven View Post
    Its perfectly normal to neck size and I cant see how its dangerious? If the round is out of spec on the shoulder too far you wont be able to close the bolt, so it cant be dangerious. I bought some wilson gauges and I check the re-sized case with these, if they are OK I fill them. If not I full resize though my shopping list has a shoulder bump die on it.

    You are correct on not firing someone elses neck sized ammo, its not for your gun.
    Let me re-phrase it since I'm not being very clear.

    No way in hell would I fire any neck-sized ammo in a gas gun! I don't care if it has been neck-sized for my chamber, in my opinion neck-sizing is asking for stuck cases in chambers at best, and a potential kaboom at worst.

    Neck-sizing is normal for bolt guns, NOT gas guns. I've never seen a single reloading manual recommend neck-sizing for semi autos, they all recommend against it as dangerous as far as I am aware.

    We're playing with explosives, and setting them off by our faces. A little bit of caution is warranted. FFS, I'm a lazy bastard at the best of times, and lubing and tumbling brass is a pain, but I see absolutely no point in taking stupid chances just to save a few minutes.
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    Get yourself a Dillon case gauge.
    A stainless one is the way to go so it wont rust.
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    Cool cheers for the info Scaggly much appreciated.

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