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    I know this is a bit different to your question. I tried some 160gn A/Bs in my rem mag they grouped really well and awesome on gongs but sadly that was all they were good for. After I lost the 4th deer with them just penciling through and not enough blood trail I went to 150gn B/Ts and bang flop or 20yds from where the animal was hit was a dead deer with massive blood trail. The A/Bs did work on Thar. I wouldn’t go back to them. I’m now using Bergers in another 7mm and swear by them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shootm View Post
    I know this is a bit different to your question. I tried some 160gn A/Bs in my rem mag they grouped really well and awesome on gongs but sadly that was all they were good for. After I lost the 4th deer with them just penciling through and not enough blood trail I went to 150gn B/Ts and bang flop or 20yds from where the animal was hit was a dead deer with massive blood trail. The A/Bs did work on Thar. I wouldn’t go back to them. I’m now using Bergers in another 7mm and swear by them.
    I used the 140gn ones in my 270 for a while, everything I shot died but quite a few deer needed follow up shots due to pass thru’s, I reckon you need to go to a lighter weight (140gn for a 7Rem mag/130gn for 270) and drive them FAST and hit bone as they are a really hard projectile.

    I’ve had good results from the 129gn LRAB in a 6.5
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    Quote Originally Posted by outdoorlad View Post
    I used the 140gn ones in my 270 for a while, everything I shot died but quite a few deer needed follow up shots due to pass thru’s, I reckon you need to go to a lighter weight (140gn for a 7Rem mag/130gn for 270) and drive them FAST and hit bone as they are a really hard projectile.

    I’ve had good results from the 129gn LRAB in a 6.5
    I’m will past them now.
    You can stick them where the sun doesn’t shine IMO
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    I bounced this thread of my Accubond shooting mate last night, see what he says. He’s not a forum type so I’ll just paste his whatsapp replies.

    Use Acubond Long range for everything now. in the 65 Lap very good which is what me n Karen used the most last season. not as tough as regular AB and better combo of penetration and breakup.


    AB long range doesnt mean long range required to make it work. Just softer thats all. Very similar to eldx.


    All but 2 deer last season bang flopped drt with ABLR. Cant remember EVER getting drt with regulat AB.


    Would prob only use regular AB on real heavy red stags or sambar now in the 3006.


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    I’ve had good results with accubonds in 308win and 270win out to 300m-400m, the closer the quicker the kill.
    Better still is the Long Range AccuBond, they are where it’s at a great all round bullet from Nosler projectiles. When I had my 270win was running 150gr LRAB’s, dropped many deer at the 400m-700m with the farthest being 818m. The bullet was still doing 1600fps and energy at around 800ft/lb and smoked goats a lot farther.
    At close range they shed a lot of weight but mushroom up really well and don’t blow to bits like Ballistic tips.
    Can’t comment on Berger I’ve only used them as subsonics.

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    If you are taking longer shots often stick with the bergers. Tge 150 eld x might be worth a look as well. Good bc

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick-D View Post
    If you are taking longer shots often stick with the bergers. Tge 150 eld x might be worth a look as well. Good bc
    I had a look at one during the week. unfortunately to fit my mag they would have to be seated to far back in the case for my liking. So that may rule out the LRAB as well. I suppose I could try some Ballistic Tips and see how they go.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kudu View Post
    I had a look at one during the week. unfortunately to fit my mag they would have to be seated to far back in the case for my liking. So that may rule out the LRAB as well. I suppose I could try some Ballistic Tips and see how they go.....
    Ive shot a few animals with both the 140 and 150nbt at moderate velocities out of a 7mm08. They work. All bang flops (or near enough) out to 350m.

    The 150 would be a good match for the 284, shorter projectile than an lrab or eld x. I always found them very easy to get shooting as well

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    Has the Berger ever let you down @Kudu ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahr View Post
    Has the Berger ever let you down @Kudu ?
    LOL...I was waiting for that question, and I know it should be a case of don't fix what aint broke. But they are the only projectile that I have used, have always wondered if there was another that would perform even better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kudu View Post
    LOL...I was waiting for that question, and I know it should be a case of don't fix what aint broke. But they are the only projectile that I have used, have always wondered if there was another that would perform even better.
    I'm the same. Got to fiddle.

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    The Accubonds need speed to get them opening up but they do work ok when pushed fast and at moderate ranges. The Ballistic tip has been beefed up from the early days and will penetrate better than those early models. I use 180 gr BT in my 3006 and they work great, I also use the accubond as well, as they both have the same BC and look identical only one is bonded the other not , both shoot to the same point of impact also.
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    ones Chalk and ones One of the Best bullets ever.........

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    What's your max COAL kudu? I have had 150gr gk at 2.95 and currently 162 Hornady BTSP at 3.00 work well in a modded short action

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevodog View Post
    What's your max COAL kudu? I have had 150gr gk at 2.95 and currently 162 Hornady BTSP at 3.00 work well in a modded short action
    Its about 75mm from memory.

 

 

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