Thread: Brass damage ?? Help

Originally Posted by zimmer

Not sure if you posted pics of the Winchester 150gr cases (thread now quite long) but I assume from your first posting that those cases showed absolutely no signs of the Hornady issue. In that case, when you go to the gun shop, belabour the fact that the factory Winchester gave no problems whereas the Hornady did. Take the Win brass with you.

And unfortunately (and I hope I am wrong here) be prepared to have them try and fob you off. If possible take a mate with you to just watch and listen.

Sorry, my paranoia coming thru ha ha.

Good luck.

Sweet , so I went and dropped it off to hamils on Cameron road and they aren't worried at all about the condition of the bolt and they didn't seem to want to look at the rifle , however they were concerned with the ammunition cases so I have left it with them for now and they are going to be in touch . I'm still on the fence about my rifle so I might take it to the local gunsmith for a quick once over while things are underway .


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They weren't concerned about the bolt? Are they going to have it fixed?

Originally Posted by MSL

They weren't concerned about the bolt? Are they going to have it fixed?

Nope ?


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Was it like that when you brought it?

Originally Posted by MSL

Was it like that when you brought it?

No


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Unfortunately the damage to your bolt face, now that the cause is known, and you have ceased using that cause and it won't get worse, is more a cosmetic issue. Still a mighty piss off though. Would gall me considerably and I would want some recognition of my anguish from the ammo supplier.

I have seen heaps of bolt faces like that and worse. Mostly rifles owned by NRA shooters who, in most cases seemed unaware or unconcerned and I would want some recognition of my anguish from the ammo retailer.

In recent years there have also been the issues with Winchester LR primers leaking badly. Some members of this forum were "victims" of those primers.

Real bad cases end up with debris going down the firing pin hole and repairs required to the bolt face and firing pin hole.

Yours shouldn't have got to that stage.

I am not trying to marginalise the issue in your case.

Run it past your gun smith when you visit him.

Originally Posted by zimmer

Unfortunately the damage to your bolt face, now that the cause is known, and you have ceased using that cause and it won't get worse, is more a cosmetic issue. Still a mighty piss off though. Would gall me considerably.

I have seen heaps of bolt faces like that and worse. Mostly rifles owned by NRA shooters who, in most cases seemed unaware or unconcerned.

In recent years there have also been the issues with Winchester LR primers leaking badly.

Real bad cases end up with debris going down the firing pin hole. Yours shouldn't have got to that stage.

Run it past your gun smith when you visit him.

Yea that's what I plan on doing I'll see how it goes


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Your happy to have acquired some etching on your bolt face? I wouldn't be. It was caused by ammo they sold you so only fair they return it to its previous condition surely

Originally Posted by MSL

Your happy to have acquired some etching on your bolt face? I wouldn't be. It was caused by ammo they sold you so only fair they return it to its previous condition surely

Yeah well I don't think they are going to somehow unless my gunsmith reccomends that it gets replaced


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Originally Posted by MSL

The raised circles where the brass has extruded into to the ejector pocket

I also see some raised rims around the firing-pin indents where primer metal has tied to flow back along the firing pin. Definitely time to look for slightly reduced loads. There can be a price to pay for snug headspacing. I think I see some burnishing on the shoulders of a couple of those cases. Might also be worth taking the rifle to a gunsmith and have him check the chamber with go no-go gauges? Or return it to the retailer as faulty and have HIM get it sorted.

@pepper123

It will be interesting to see if the ammo supplier ( not the retailer) steps up and owns their issue and puts thing right to your satisfaction.

It is a good idea to have your rifle checked out buy a competent Gusmith especialy the head space if only for your peace of mind.

Cheers
Pete

Originally Posted by P38

@pepper123

It will be interesting to see if the ammo supplier ( not the retailer) steps up and owns their issue and puts thing right to your satisfaction.

It is a good idea to have your rifle checked out buy a competent Gusmith especialy the head space if only for your peace of mind.

Cheers
Pete

Yea well the guys in the shop ran the vernier over the used brass and unused rounds and they were pretty concerned so I'll b getting a good checkup


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Was it a brand new rifle? Who is your gunsmith?

Originally Posted by Gibo

Was it a brand new rifle? Who is your gunsmith?

Brand new mate yep , had 40 rounds of Winchester through it without a problem then this drama happened with the hornady ! I don't have one in particular but was going to ring that df maisey gunsmith? Unless u can recommend anyone local ?


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No he should be fine, he will charge though so i sugest you ask Hamils to come up with a plan to make things up to you before spending more of your own coin. I can tell you now Dean will say 'yip, the bolt got some love' and thats all really. Maybe it needs a weld but i doubt it looking at your pics. Id be seeking a replacement bolt myself