Thread: Brass damage ?? Help

Originally Posted by stug

Would you accept it if your car had been permanently damaged by something you had added to it?
Consumer guarantees act should see you right.
Your choice though, good luck trying to sell your rifle if you ever decide to. The bolt damage will take hundreds of dollars off the resale value, if anyone did decide to buy it.

But there is no damage done that was the whole point in getting it looked at and all second hand rifles have etching on the bolt face so I don't see any problem? The bolt has no damage, the headspace is perfect. The brass has the only damage...........


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Your boltface has been etched hasn't it? I have second hand rifle that have shot hundreds of rounds and none have an etched bolt face. A friend bought a second hand 375 H&H with an etched boltface (that was not as bad as yours), he paid about $400 less than you would expect for the rifle

Originally Posted by stug

Your boltface has been etched hasn't it? I have second hand rifle that have shot hundreds of rounds and none have an etched bolt face. A friend bought a second hand 375 H&H with an etched boltface (that was not as bad as yours), he paid about $400 less than you would expect for the rifle

All used browning x bolts have this etching from the precision headspace this is what 2 shops and the gunsmith have told me . And both shops showed me examples of there second hand x bolts .


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Originally Posted by pepper123

All used browning x bolts have this etching from the precision headspace this is what 2 shops and the gunsmith have told me . And both shops showed me examples of there second hand x bolts .


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Is this a joke?
'Etching from precision headspace'
I'll make sure I get the gunsmith to build my next custom with non precision/sloppy headspace so I don't get bolt etching

Originally Posted by MSL

Is this a joke?
'Etching from precision headspace'
I'll make sure I get the gunsmith to build my next custom with non precision/sloppy headspace so I don't get bolt etching

I'm guessing everyone on this forum are gunsmiths? Lol


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Originally Posted by pepper123

I'm guessing everyone on this forum are gunsmiths? Lol


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Na, you have missed the point mate, these guys are trying to tell you that etching on the bolt face is not normal but hey as long as you're happy with a box of ammo then best of luck to you.

Originally Posted by pepper123

I'm guessing everyone on this forum are gunsmiths? Lol


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@pepper123

Mate I gave you my best advise based on being a Professional Engineer (Toolmaker) with many associated engineering qualifications to my name including a very good knowledge and understanding of fits and finishes and metallurgy, a Firearms Collector and a Reloader with over 40 years experience, based on the evidence you presented me with.

And while I respect the opinion your chosen gunsmith has given you based on examining your rifle, something which I haven't, I do agree with the general opinion given here.

The etching on the bolt face is not normal and while it maybe cosmetic it will have an effect on the resale value of this firearm as it indicates that the rifle has been exposed to over pressure loads at some stage during its life.

And whoever told you "All X-Bolts have etched bolt faces due to the precision head spacing" plainly has very little knowledge of what causes this etching.

There is no question in my mind that will diminish the resale value of your rifle.

The guys in the gun stores are salespeople, I'm an engineer so it would be expected that we would differ in our opinions
based on our knowledge, experience and perspective.

Especially if a liability exists.

That said if your happy with the response you have been given from the gunshop and the box of ammo then End of Story as that's your business.

Calling people here that have tried to help and that I respect names is just mean spirited and way out of line.

For that alone I won't be willing to help you out any more.

Cheers
Pete

Originally Posted by pepper123

Hi folks
Just been up the range this arvo and I've used half a box of Hornady 168grain (308) . So the issue I have had is the brass is getting damaged by the bolt and 2 of the primers have turned a bluey dusty colour and the bolt is very sticky when unloading. Otherwise it's fine with the Winchester 150grain. The rifle is browning X bolt (308) . Here's a pic aswell

I'm curious, You have brass damaged by the bolt, if you continue firing the gun and continue to get damaged brass and more etching on your bolt face, then what?
My apologies if this has been covered already.

edit to add,
I just googled "browning x bolt, bolt face etching" and the only relevant post I found was the one below and Winchester admitted the fault lay with them and replaced the guys bolt. This was from reloads using Winchester primers so may not be relevant?

Originally Posted by ROKTOY

I'm curious, You have brass damaged by the bolt, if you continue firing the gun and continue to get damaged brass and more etching on your bolt face, then what?
My apologies if this has been covered already.

So the problem was a bad load of hornady and the brass was expanding like hell making it difficult to unload. All other ammunition fired since then has been perfect


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Unfortunately they did the typical NZ retailer trick and fobbed you off. They should at least give you a new bolt and have it fitted.

Originally Posted by 300CALMAN

Unfortunately they did the typical NZ retailer trick and fobbed you off. They should at least give you a new bolt and have it fitted.

Yes you have been played..
Young wipper snapper

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No. Just not naive.

Originally Posted by MSL

No. Just not naive.

Lol all you internet experts told me to get it properly checked so I did and gave you the answer that I got . So now you're all super gutted that you weren't right . X bolts have etching on the bolt face . Go and look for yourself at some second hand ones lol ...... talk about home internet experts


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Na mate, it'd be a waste of time cos i would've just told u what the others are saying.
Don't need to be a gunsmith to know there shouldn't be etching on your bolt face. Surely if etching wasnt a problem then you would wonder why manufacturers polish the machine marks off the face.

Originally Posted by wsm junkie

Na mate, it'd be a waste of time cos i would've just told u what the others are saying.
Don't need to be a gunsmith to know there shouldn't be etching on your bolt face. Surely if etching wasnt a problem then you would wonder why manufacturers polish the machine marks off the face.

So every browning x bolt needs to have the bolt replaced?? If you go and see it for yourself that every used one has this etching will all the experts still say this even with the proof right infront of them ?? Lol wtf is going on .....


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