Thread: Brass damage ?? Help

For what it's worth my son and the 2 that I have owned had no marks on the bolt face at all.
And have only shot reloads through them and never popped a primer.

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From that rather grainy photo of the bolt was it an actual gas cut or a sooty ring that has not actually cut into the metal?

Originally Posted by Clint Ruin

From that rather grainy photo of the bolt was it an actual gas cut or a sooty ring that has not actually cut into the metal?

http://www.nzhuntingandshooting.co.n...tml#post595951

Originally Posted by gadgetman

http://www.nzhuntingandshooting.co.n...tml#post595951

Missed that .
Interesting that the gunsmith says its not a issue .

Originally Posted by Clint Ruin

Missed that .
Interesting that the gunsmith says its not a issue .

It probably isn't from a function and safety point of view, it would be to me from an aesthetic and rifle aspect though!


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Exactly.

Originally Posted by Clint Ruin

From that rather grainy photo of the bolt was it an actual gas cut or a sooty ring that has not actually cut into the metal?

Exactly. I've seen many bolt faces that had a sooty ring on them and that weren't etched. A lot of shooters don't clean their bolt faces and probably never will.

The retailers that reckon X-Bolt rifles are prone to having etched bolt faces sounds like pure BS to me though.

Well that all turned to shit rather quickly

You did ask for our help and took it until we told you something you couldnt comprehend.
I dont rate your chances of getting anymore value or help from this forum

Originally Posted by Gibo

You did ask for our help and took it until we told you something you couldnt comprehend.
I dont rate your chances of getting anymore value or help from this forum

Bullshit you couldn't handle that the shops and gunsmith gave out proper information not like the muppet go get a new bolt comments


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@pepper123

Mate - I've picked up a lot of useful information from the majority of the posters here.
I have an Omark 308 single shot target rifle that exhibits a 'smoke ring' around the firing pin.
Having read of the 'etching' problem that has been discussed above - a lot of the comments above, are throwaway lines that are purely to display the posters preference for X brand of rifle/firearm and their favourite calibre - are usually tongue in cheek replies - not always directed at you personally.
Don't worry buddy, I've been on the receiving end of 'being put in my place' by some of the Good Buggers above.
Let it go mate - these guys were offering various explanations for similar events they've seen or experienced.
Plus there'll be a certain amount of BS in the commentaries, which they hope will 'encourage' you to sell it cheap on the 'Buy, Sell, Swap' forum.
That way they'll get a near new cheapie and a big smile for pulling the wool over your eyes
Bye the bye - the 'smoke ring' around my firing pin?
Years of shooting and poor cleaning practise - scratched the smoke ring with the tip of my finger nail - no etching.
Several of the senior members here are practising gunsmiths and retailers, so their input is designed to help a 'newbie' make a decision on a course of action.
A second opinion always helps - you've received 10 pages of assistance from a lot of experienced people.
Rubbishing them and indulging in name calling will block this very excellent resource from helping you out in future

Originally Posted by WallyR

@pepper123

Mate - I've picked up a lot of useful information from the majority of the posters here.
I have an Omark 308 single shot target rifle that exhibits a 'smoke ring' around the firing pin.
Having read of the 'etching' problem that has been discussed above - a lot of the comments above, are throwaway lines that are purely to display the posters preference for X brand of rifle/firearm and their favourite calibre - are usually tongue in cheek replies - not always directed at you personally.
Don't worry buddy, I've been on the receiving end of 'being put in my place' by some of the Good Buggers above.
Let it go mate - these guys were offering various explanations for similar events they've seen or experienced.
Plus there'll be a certain amount of BS in the commentaries, which they hope will 'encourage' you to sell it cheap on the 'Buy, Sell, Swap' forum.
That way they'll get a near new cheapie and a big smile for pulling the wool over your eyes
Bye the bye - the 'smoke ring' around my firing pin?
Years of shooting and poor cleaning practise - scratched the smoke ring with the tip of my finger nail - no etching.
Several of the senior members here are practising gunsmiths and retailers, so their input is designed to help a 'newbie' make a decision on a course of action.
A second opinion always helps - you've received 10 pages of assistance from a lot of experienced people.
Rubbishing them and indulging in name calling will block this very excellent resource from helping you out in future

Absolutely mate and I agree with some of what you're saying but a lot the opinions are rubbish and trying to get a bite and acting like know it all kids so that's how I'm treating them . They can't handle that I haven't made a huge scene in the shops demanding some full replacement over a bit of bolt etching even after 3 professionals have given it the thumbs up . It's a load of crap to me so I'll just continue to treat these know it Alls how they behave


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To the OP, I can understand your frustration at some of the replies on this thread. There is no need for anybody to criticise you for not demanding a new bolt. You can take their advice or leave it as it's entirely up to you what you want to do about it. Most on here however, have posted with a genuine concern for your issue.

If you have some minor etching of your bolt face and you decide at some stage to sell the rifle it may or may not knock the asking price down some. That's whether any potential buyer ever noticed the etching in the first place. Even so, the honest thing to do is to make it known to said potential buyer and explain what caused it.

Personally, as long as it was minor, it wouldn't bother me when buying a rifle. Also, I keep my rifles for at least twenty years on average and don't buy rifles to sell. Your mileage may vary - as the saying goes.

Originally Posted by 10-Ring

To the OP, I can understand your frustration at some of the replies on this thread. There is no need for anybody to criticise you for not demanding a new bolt. You can take their advice or leave it as it's entirely up to you what you want to do about it. Most on here however, have posted with a genuine concern for your issue.

If you have some minor etching of your bolt face and you decide at some stage to sell the rifle it may or may not knock the asking price down some. That's whether any potential buyer ever noticed the etching in the first place. Even so, the honest thing to do is to make it known to said potential buyer and explain what caused it.

Personally, as long as it was minor, it wouldn't bother me when buying a rifle. Also, I keep my rifles for at least twenty years on average and don't buy rifles to sell. Your mileage may vary - as the saying goes.

Too easy mate this is basically how I feel about the situation.


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Thanks for the Friday arvo smoko entertainment, just know that a room full of mature engineers have had a good belly laugh at your expense

Pretty much everyone has firearms too, no Brownings though?


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