Cast Lead Thread ?

[Moa Hunter]

More powder coated cast lead success stories

This group from my Baikal 30-30 self build carbine

Bullets are Saeco #311 mould
165 grain Powder Coated Gas Check
Sized .309

No fancy load work yet
Just getting them down range to see if they are accurate enough to hit a deer at 200m

The picture speaks for itself
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What velocity are they going ? Great group

[akaroa1]

What velocity are they going ? Great group

I didn't put them through the chronograph
The load was straight Nick Harvey's reloading book and half way between the starting and max loads
So 10% more to get to max loads
If the group is still good it will still only be under 1900 fps because barrel is only 14 1/2"

[Moa Hunter]

I didn't put them through the chronograph
The load was straight Nick Harvey's reloading book and half way between the starting and max loads
So 10% more to get to max loads
If the group is still good it will still only be under 1900 fps because barrel is only 14 1/2"

I was guessing they would be 1600 ish being cast. 1900 is plenty fast

[akaroa1]

I was guessing they would be 1600 ish being cast. 1900 is plenty fast

No speed limit on powder coated gas checked bullets other than running out of case capacity

[rossi.45]

I didn't put them through the chronograph
The load was straight Nick Harvey's reloading book and half way between the starting and max loads
So 10% more to get to max loads
If the group is still good it will still only be under 1900 fps because barrel is only 14 1/2"

nice group n good speeds . . . can i ask what powder your using ?

[T.FOYE]

It's shooting better than a marlin lever 3030 I was messing about with once (open sights but still).

[akaroa1]

It's shooting better than a marlin lever 3030 I was messing about with once (open sights but still).

It's shooting better than a lot of rifles worth 10 times as much

It's a bitser
Baikal shotgun
16" 30-06 barrel off forum
Suppressor off forum
Very cheap scope off forum
Cheap rings off forum
Weaver base retail $30 ! Is the only new thing in it
Chamber reamer self made
Dies and brass off forum
New old stock second hand bullet mould is a keeper

I just need to chronograph a hotter load and see if it still groups
Zero at 100m
Check the drop at 200m
Done

[T.FOYE]

I ran my new MP 415gn hollowpoint (pentagonal cone shape) across the radar yesterday. These had cc1 200 primers, 'cost effective' winchester brass (10th cycle), N130 VV powder. Carefully waiting 4min between shots.
Note how the radar starts logging irregular velocity after 65m. This is a fat arse bullet so i reckon anyone trying to find a bc beyond this with a smaller cal / boat tail etc is kinda wasting time.
I dunno if G1 is best to represent the hollowpoint keith designs but it has spat out .26 as the average BC for this shape when powdercoated.
I did this batch using the hornady bell mouther and then Lee M die to crimp them. As you can see it makes for good ES and SD (for what thats worth in 45-70 )

That coating didn't want to come off even when struck by another bullet... but as you can see the points broke up into segments. I wouldn't use these on animals i intend to eat.

[Micky Duck]

I ran my new MP 415gn hollowpoint (pentagonal cone shape) across the radar yesterday. These had cc1 200 primers, 'cost effective' winchester brass (10th cycle), N130 VV powder. Carefully waiting 4min between shots.
Note how the radar starts logging irregular velocity after 65m. This is a fat arse bullet so i reckon anyone trying to find a bc beyond this with a smaller cal / boat tail etc is kinda wasting time.
I dunno if G1 is best to represent the hollowpoint keith designs but it has spat out .26 as the average BC for this shape when powdercoated.
I did this batch using the hornady bell mouther and then Lee M die to crimp them. As you can see it makes for good ES and SD (for what thats worth in 45-70 )

That coating didn't want to come off even when struck by another bullet... but as you can see the points broke up into segments. I wouldn't use these on animals i intend to eat.

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by golly they are pretty hollow points....I definately would use them on animals I intend to eat.....nice big hole and fast kill appeals to me. small amount of discarded meat is small price to pay.

[T.FOYE]

Fairly good groups at 100m. It's pretty hold sensitive being such a light rifle but it's fine for hunting out to 200m imo

[akaroa1]

I cast 150 22 HORNET 45 grain bullets today and powder coated them

Gas checked and sized a couple to measure
The .224 sizer is exactly to size and the bullets are now 46.5 grains

A very kind forum member gave @Tentman and I two moulds, gas checks and .224 and .225 sizers

I feel a bit of a K hornet shooting comp coming on ( but only for rifles over 100 years old )

[300CALMAN]

I cast 150 22 HORNET 45 grain bullets today and powder coated them

Gas checked and sized a couple to measure
The .224 sizer is exactly to size and the bullets are now 46.5 grains

A very kind forum member gave @Tentman and I two moulds, gas checks and .224 and .225 sizers

I feel a bit of a K hornet shooting comp coming on ( but only for rifles over 100 years old )]

Nice Hornets, what alloy are you making them out of?

[akaroa1]

Nice Hornets, what alloy are you making them out of?

The Hornet bullets were cast pure soft because you can with PC

But didn't shoot well in the vintage hornet I tried them in
I have two other vintage Hornets to test them in yet and have given some to mates to test as well

I will cast and PC some harder alloy of the same bullet and test those also

Soft lead in the Hornet isn't so important anyway
I was just playing with fully soft because it's been a great options in my vintage big bore rifles

[T.FOYE]

Learned one important thing today. 45-70 doesn't require you to spend all that time with the deburr tool. I got my best groups at 100y with un-DB'd ammo. I'd wanted to try this as I wondered if my variation in deburring technique was resulting in a different amount of crimp. It does, but it's not much. But I'm lazy az and less steps is a good thing.

[rossi.45]

sorry if this has been asked somewhere else . . what kind of increase in diamater would you expect on a just cast .309 bullet with powder coating ?