Thread: Component shortage

The problem isn't solely just the scalpers though. Equal blame falls on people willing to pay that much.
I get people get desperate, but if they werent willing to pay so much, people couldn't sell for that much.
Take for example the many auctions for 143gr eld-x that sky rocket to $300, the only people driving up that price are bidders...

Off topic, but same issue with house prices. They are only high, because buyers are willing to pay that much, the excuse being, if I am not willing to spend that much, someone else will buy it and I will miss out...

Originally Posted by kiwi-adam

The problem isn't solely just the scalpers though. Equal blame falls on people willing to pay that much.
I get people get desperate, but if they werent willing to pay so much, people couldn't sell for that much.
Take for example the many auctions for 143gr eld-x that sky rocket to $300, the only people driving up that price are bidders...

Off topic, but same issue with house prices. They are only high, because buyers are willing to pay that much, the excuse being, if I am not willing to spend that much, someone else will buy it and I will miss out...

To be fair for the average hunter 100 projectiles will last them a very long time so it's probably worth paying stupid prices for, especially if going to a different bullet means you need to do new load development.
As a competetion shooter theres no way in hell I'm paying those prices, when you go through 70-100 rounds in a single match, if you don't have a good stock already you are basically screwed.

I unfortunately only shoot 6.5mm's, which seems like is the most popular calibre for at the moment but I don't see the other calibres being any better (for any match bullet I'd want to shoot anyway).
6mm, 7mm and 30cal Hornady and Berger bullets sell out just as quick as 6.5mm, for hunting bullets theres more choice but a lot of stuff is still sold out.

Originally Posted by Beetroot

To be fair for the average hunter 100 projectiles will last them a very long time so it's probably worth paying stupid prices for, especially if going to a different bullet means you need to do new load development.
As a competetion shooter theres no way in hell I'm paying those prices, when you go through 70-100 rounds in a single match, if you don't have a good stock already you are basically screwed.

I'm also a competition target shooter, firing 1500-2400 rounds a season.
In my first season I ran out of my preferred projectile mid-season.
Since I've always tried to have enough components at the start of the season to be able to get to the finish.
In fact in some component, primers and projectiles I may have enough for several seasons as I buy in bulk to get a better price.
I've been able to help some club mates out at the prices I've paid for components.

Some shooters can't/won't/didn't think ahead to ensure that they can load enough to see them through this shortage.
Now some are paying whatever it takes to get what they want or need. That's the free market in action.

Perhaps more people will learn to plan ahead in the future.

If you don't want to pay current prices then don't. It's your choice. Don't complain when others do.

But with houses, buyers are expecting prices to keep increasing in the future, so it’s also a case of “if I don’t buy now I’ll have to pay more later” or “I’ll make money from buying now and selling later”.
Which are also possibilities with 6.5mm projectiles, but much less likely!

Originally Posted by Cigar

But with houses, buyers are expecting prices to keep increasing in the future, so it’s also a case of “if I don’t buy now I’ll have to pay more later” or “I’ll make money from buying now and selling later”.
Which are also possibilities with 6.5mm projectiles, but much less likely!

Thats about to change big time......lets hope we dont see a lot of new home owners in negative equity in the near future .

Originally Posted by veitnamcam

Thats about to change big time......lets hope we dont see a lot of new home owners in negative equity in the near future .

how so??? what dramatic price crash is your crystal ball showing????

Originally Posted by veitnamcam

Thats about to change big time......lets hope we dont see a lot of new home owners in negative equity in the near future .

I think you are correct, especially as NZ'ers seem to like operating their lives generally on credit rather than Pay as you go. A lot of people seem to have their house regularly revalued (always goes up ) so that they can further extend their borrowing to have all the finer things in life.

When that is combined with people mortgaging themselves right up the WaZoo just to get a place then doing the above every few years its a reciepe for a hard fall later when eventually the Piper needs repayment.
My folks taught me the only thing you borrow for is the house so I amrather "old school". I get a lot of shit from mates cause I won't buy anything unless I can pay cash in full and upfront. While it has bitten me badly once doing this (and you know who you are!!) at least I sleep every night with out worrying about repayments and such.

Sadly I think if interest rates go up a few percent when combined with cost of living and Covid, the end results on peoples lives/lifestyles are going to smart a bit for a while

Originally Posted by mikee

I think you are correct, especially as NZ'ers seem to like operating their lives generally on credit rather than Pay as you go. A lot of people seem to have their house regularly revalued (always goes up ) so that they can further extend their borrowing to have all the finer things in life.

When that is combined with people mortgaging themselves right up the WaZoo just to get a place then doing the above every few years its a reciepe for a hard fall later when eventually the Piper needs repayment.
My folks taught me the only thing you borrow for is the house so I amrather "old school". I get a lot of shit from mates cause I won't buy anything unless I can pay cash in full and upfront. While it has bitten me badly once doing this (and you know who you are!!) at least I sleep every night with out worrying about repayments and such.

Sadly I think if interest rates go up a few percent when combined with cost of living and Covid, the end results on peoples lives/lifestyles are going to smart a bit for a while

No treats for the beloved kuri. Sad. LOL. Unfortunately many NZ'ers are going to find out about real world maths. USA'S biggest rebuy company has folded that operation because the economics no longer stack up.

Originally Posted by TeRei

No treats for the beloved kuri. Sad. LOL. Unfortunately many NZ'ers are going to find out about real world maths. USA'S biggest rebuy company has folded that operation because the economics no longer stack up.

The pooches get plenty of treats, live inside and well exercised Have you seen the price of good dog food, gone up with a wallop lately!

I stocked up before the "great component famine " and have enough to last maybe 12 months at current consumption (or rest of my life if only used for hunting) and more on order to replenish

Get a 270 there’s heaps of good projectiles around for them..

You could shoot cast lead
Scrap is usually free

Trouble is Black Powder is all out of stock now as well in the South Island

An now someone will say " you can make your own black powder "
Like I have time to do that !

Originally Posted by akaroa1

You could shoot cast lead
Scrap is usually free

Trouble is Black Powder is all out of stock now as well in the South Island

An now someone will say " you can make your own black powder "
Like I have time to do that !

call in and see me next time you coming past...I will give you some home rolled to try...

Originally Posted by Micky Duck

call in and see me next time you coming past...I will give you some home rolled to try...

@mickey Duck I'm planning a trip to waimate in two weekends to meet @Tentman and make some smoke and noise
Will have some tonnage of old guns on board to scare the roo's with

Cindy is making us JAFA's save our ammo as most can't shoot or haven't done so for months.

Originally Posted by outdoorlad

Was in a H&F recently and they had 2 tikka 6.5PRC on the rack, sales guy starts in about how great they are so I ask have you got any ammo for them…..”ah no” when will you some “ah not this year he begrudgingly said” Good luck selling those rifles then!

As long as they don't try and sell them to a newby who has no idea about how hard it is to get ammo for them atm