Thread: Component shortage

Originally Posted by Beetroot

Our roads are built poorly from the begining, lack of maintenance isn't the problem. When the Waikato expressway between Hampton downs and Te Kauwhata was in construction they opened up a newly completed section to traffic to start working on the other side, literally the first day it was opened pot holes occured everywhere (passed 3 cars that where changing tyres) and a whole big enough to swallow a car popped up.
I've seen countless road work sights that haven't even been sealed yet where potholes are popping up, even when the public isn't allowed to drive on it. I've seen first hand a council project that blew the budget massively due to the incompetence of consultants they paid to do their job and there be absolutely no re-course for those people and a massive cost to the rate payer. Like everything we plebs pay through the nose for everything, get a crap product or service, and have to be thankful for the experience.

@Beetroot As an aside... I was talking to the Chinese owner of the chip shop the other day and he said that in China the company making/repairing a road has to stand guarantee for it for three years at least. He reckoned that is one reason why the roads are good. I'd say CCP would ensure that guarantee was enforced!

Originally Posted by grandpamac

Well done @mikee,
I already had a .308 (actually 4 if you count a couple of old target rifles). My current stocks of projectiles for my 6.5 are meagre but plentiful for the .308. Ditto powder. We should all own at least one .308 although I suppose a .30-06 would do in a pinch. Easy to load and shoots almost any projectile well. In case you are wondering my 4 are staying exactly where they are.
Regards Grandpamac.

Well @grandpamac 308 is my 3rd 30cal
My 6.5TCU and SAUM are currently out of projectiles pretty much so needed something to shoot lots and often hence the 308

Originally Posted by Cyclops

We'd all like more maintenance on our roads.

How would you like to fund that?
Increased fuel taxes and increased RUC?
Increased PAYE or increased property rates?
@striker's comments suggest that the damage is caused by heavier vehicle traffic. Should they pay higher RUC which will be passed onto consumers?

Remember EVs aren't paying RUC (at present) and don't pay fuel taxes.

We're often quick to identify the problem, slower to help fund the cure.

Easy. Stop diverting funds from fuel tax etc to other areas

Originally Posted by Danger Mouse

Easy. Stop diverting funds from fuel tax etc to other areas

Examples of diversions?

Originally Posted by Cyclops

Examples of diversions?

Understand for many moons fuel, RUC and other associated taxes went into the consolidated fund, then redistributed from there to what was decided to be a worthy cause. Roading wasn't the only receiver.

Originally Posted by tetawa

Understand for many moons fuel, RUC and other associated taxes went into the consolidated fund, then redistributed from there to what was decided to be a worthy cause. Roading wasn't the only receiver.

It hasn't been that way for some time. What happened sometime in the past isn't indicative of what happens today.
Funds are not diverted today. The line is How land transport is funded.

How you pay for land transport
All vehicles travelling on public roads contribute to the building, maintenance and operation of our land transport system by:
paying PED or RUC
being registered
paying the licence fee, often called ‘rego’, at least annually.

Some vehicles contribute to specific roads by paying tolls. All fare-paying passengers on public transport contribute to the operation of public transport services.

The cost of building and maintaining local roads is shared between central government, through Waka Kotahi NZ Transport Agency, and local councils. Councils contribute to the cost of their land transport activities from rates and borrowing, in what is known as the ‘local share’. The cost of public transport, and walking and cycling facilities is also shared but state highways and road policing are entirely funded by Waka Kotahi NZ Transport Agency.

From time to time the Government decides to fund projects which are unable or unsuitable to be funded by charges to vehicle owners. For these, the Crown is able to direct additional funds through its usual budget processes.

Originally Posted by bumblefoot

@Beetroot As an aside... I was talking to the Chinese owner of the chip shop the other day and he said that in China the company making/repairing a road has to stand guarantee for it for three years at least. He reckoned that is one reason why the roads are good. I'd say CCP would ensure that guarantee was enforced!

maybe we should ask for the Chinamen to send us some reloading components???? they can start with container or three of the 55grn norinco FMJ projectiles please.

Originally Posted by Cyclops

It hasn't been that way for some time. What happened sometime in the past isn't indicative of what happens today.
Funds are not diverted today. The line is How land transport is funded.

How you pay for land transport
All vehicles travelling on public roads contribute to the building, maintenance and operation of our land transport system by:
paying PED or RUC
being registered
paying the licence fee, often called ‘rego’, at least annually.

Some vehicles contribute to specific roads by paying tolls. All fare-paying passengers on public transport contribute to the operation of public transport services.

The cost of building and maintaining local roads is shared between central government, through Waka Kotahi NZ Transport Agency, and local councils. Councils contribute to the cost of their land transport activities from rates and borrowing, in what is known as the ‘local share’. The cost of public transport, and walking and cycling facilities is also shared but state highways and road policing are entirely funded by Waka Kotahi NZ Transport Agency.

From time to time the Government decides to fund projects which are unable or unsuitable to be funded by charges to vehicle owners. For these, the Crown is able to direct additional funds through its usual budget processes.

Greetings Cyclops and all,
Thanks for that bit of info. I was not aware that there was a National Land Transport Fund but there you are. I do remember, many moons ago, that there was a road fund and there was a big fuss when it was abolished and the dosh went into the consolidated fund. Keith Holyoake (National) was the PM at the time. Things do go around in circles.
GPM.

In Argentina we are used to the scarcity of inputs. To complete, the gunpowder import company is handled by criminals, they buy gunpowder in bulk and divide it and put anything ... Years ago they brought and fractionated IMR and at the same time the gunpowder was decomposing ... terrified. For my part, I use gunpowder from military manufactures in my country, A19, which is what they use to load the 50 calibers ... it gives me good results in the .338

Any update on the Xmas shipment of Adi powders?

Last I heard I had been left on a dock in the US? But the updates have gone quiet

Posted on Steves Wholesale FB last night

"ADI Gunpowder...our container has arrived off Auckland on the 8th January...and the ship is still waiting to dock. The latest update is the 4th February to unload. Sometime after that we will start delivery trips around NZ.
It's interesting that this useless government is assuring everyone that they are working closely with supply lines to keep goods flowing! That's just another blatant lie when ships can't dock now way before things really hit the fan.
It's no wonder shipping lines are avoiding NZ.
Steve"

Its not just an issue at NZ ports its world wide. Apparently there is some sort of virus that is slowing things down.

Originally Posted by Grasshoppa

Posted on Steves Wholesale FB last night

"ADI Gunpowder...our container has arrived off Auckland on the 8th January...and the ship is still waiting to dock. The latest update is the 4th February to unload. Sometime after that we will start delivery trips around NZ.
It's interesting that this useless government is assuring everyone that they are working closely with supply lines to keep goods flowing! That's just another blatant lie when ships can't dock now way before things really hit the fan.
It's no wonder shipping lines are avoiding NZ.
Steve"

I guess under the current situation there does need to be some prioritisation. Medical supplies, food, or gun powder? I wonder what percentage of NZers would rate the landing and distribution of gun powder as being important. Its contextual. Tough on small businesses like Steve's but hardly the end of the world.

From what i have witnessed. There are no priorities or queue jumping its just the mess of coping with the covid compliance (necessary) combined with general shortage of stuff including shipping lines /capacity to nz) and fact that inefficient public services like customs and mpi etc are even less efficient than usual

Originally Posted by Grasshoppa

Posted on Steves Wholesale FB last night

"It's interesting that this useless government is assuring everyone that they are working closely with supply lines to keep goods flowing!"

Yes, but under this govt gunpowder isn't classed as goods, it's "bads"