Thread: ELD-Match for hunting?

Same to you to Tahr keep those deer on their toes, better still on the ground.

i shot a hind with the 208 eldm out of my 308 at about 100y and she just collapsed. mind you it was a neck shot.
Staring to use them in my 300 win mag now, haven't shot a deer with it yet only a hare at about 300 yards and it died.

Got a yearling hind this afternoon with the 300 Win Mag and 178 gr ELD X at about 70 - 80 yards, was a shoulder shot and it dropped instantly, picture is of lungs from animal, hole through the inside of the chest cavity was about one and a half to two inches in diameter on both sides. These ELD X bullets are working well so far, need a few long shots now to see if they are equally as good at range.

Originally Posted by Mooseman

Got a yearling hind this afternoon with the 300 Win Mag and 178 gr ELD X at about 70 - 80 yards, was a shoulder shot and it dropped instantly, picture is of lungs fromAttachment 80820 animal, hole through the inside of the chest cavity was about one and a half to two inches in diameter on both sides. These ELD X bullets are working well so far, need a few long shots now to see if they are equally as good at range.

That load of yours with the 145grn in .270 @ 3144 fps would be hard to beat wouldn't it @Mooseman ?

Just finished cutting up yearling and this is the exit hole coming out of the chest cavity from the 178 gr ELD X.

Nice mooseman.

That 150gr is a perfect match for a do all in the 7mm08 I reckon.

Have a few to try in the 284, along with some 162 eld-m's. Just have to stop shooting fish and get out and shoot a deer to find out

Yes I was taken back a bit when I seen the velocities coming back each shot (that was an average of 6 shots), that Superformace has certainly put the old 270 into a next category.....along the lines of the 270 WSM. The best I could get with 150 gr bullets with the likes of AR 2213 SC, R22 were around the 2800 -2850 fps. Accuracy at 100 yards for three shots was one enlarged hole.
I think those 145 ELD X bullets are going to be pretty darn good especially if early results are anything to go by.

Now that these have been out a while I'm reviving this thread as I am thinking about giving the 178gr eld m a go through the .300 win mag.
Anymore pros and cons of the eld ms? Anyone used the 178s?

Originally Posted by Smiddy

Work mint in my wsm at 2920fps, closest shot has been around 30m

I am not surprised, at 30m. Sure you didn’t mean 300?!

Originally Posted by TLB

Now that these have been out a while I'm reviving this thread as I am thinking about giving the 178gr eld m a go through the .300 win mag. Anymore pros and cons of the eld ms? Anyone used the 178s?

The difference between the -M and the -X terminals is a function of the calibre and bullet weight as well as construction, kind of obvious I suppose.

In .30 cals, the -M will pretty much always exit at short to medium rage, usually with lots of mess.
My business partner pitched up with a .300WM and 208gr ELD-M, that just obliterated smaller deer at 300-400m, dirty horrible great big exit wounds, the combo of velocity, weight and frangibility was too much for small meat deer. He’s switched to ELD-X now and turned down the velocity a bit.

In middling small bores like 6.5mm, at medium range (400-600m type shooting) the ELD-M probably won’t exit, it will fragment massively and mince the internals, but no large fragments will penetrate through but you’ll get quite a bit of offside meat damage. The comments earlier about these ELD-Ms not being ideal for shorter range hunting is spot on, I think they are too frangible at high velocity. IMO unless you’re shooting 600m+ towards 1000m with long rangers, I wouldn’t use the ELD-M for meat hunting unless I was neck shooting them.

I first used the 178gr ELD-X in my .308 and it’s excellent, hits goats and small reds like a freight train, but without the explosive damage of the heavier ELD-Ms. I whacked a fairly heavy rooting sow at about 300m with it not that long ago and that pig was poleaxed on the spot, through the lungs and out the other side.

When the 6.5mm 143gr ELD-X came out I switched to that in the Creedmoor and it’s been much better. Sensible sized wounding at medium ranges, very deadly, reasonable exit wounds with reduced meat damage on the offside.

The -X is a better all-rounder by a clear margin IMO, I’m happy to use it at shorter ranges in the Creedmoor and I wouldn’t hesitate to use it in my .308 on heavy reds. I am dead keen on a 6mm Creedmoor to use the 103gr ELD-X, but that will have to wait.

Am I missing something here ? Why are people using the ELD-x when they could use Accubonds. Is it just fashion or are there valid reasons ???
I hate seeing animals with a whole side turned black and ruined like in the pics above

Originally Posted by Moa Hunter

Am I missing something here ? Why are people using the ELD-x when they could use Accubonds. Is it just fashion or are there valid reasons ???
I hate seeing animals with a whole side turned black and ruined like in the pics above

I know what you’re saying mate, I don’t really wanna get finger pointy and say “you shouldn’t do that” but to me 50m is too close for a .270 at over 3000fps, for example, with these types of bullet. The ELD-X come into their own for medium range, to my way of thinking, I don’t see that kind of meat damage or anything remotely close using them across the valleys 300m+. Short range for me in the hill country is 150m or less, much less than that and I’m concerned about blowing things up. If they’re that close I’ll shoot them in the neck anyway.

Originally Posted by Flyblown

I am not surprised, at 30m. Sure you didn’t mean 300?!



The difference between the -M and the -X terminals is a function of the calibre and bullet weight as well as construction, kind of obvious I suppose.

In .30 cals, the -M will pretty much always exit at short to medium rage, usually with lots of mess.
My business partner pitched up with a .300WM and 208gr ELD-M, that just obliterated smaller deer at 300-400m, dirty horrible great big exit wounds, the combo of velocity, weight and frangibility was too much for small meat deer. He’s switched to ELD-X now and turned down the velocity a bit.

In middling small bores like 6.5mm, at medium range (400-600m type shooting) the ELD-M probably won’t exit, it will fragment massively and mince the internals, but no large fragments will penetrate through but you’ll get quite a bit of offside meat damage. The comments earlier about these ELD-Ms not being ideal for shorter range hunting is spot on, I think they are too frangible at high velocity. IMO unless you’re shooting 600m+ towards 1000m with long rangers, I wouldn’t use the ELD-M for meat hunting unless I was neck shooting them.

I first used the 178gr ELD-X in my .308 and it’s excellent, hits goats and small reds like a freight train, but without the explosive damage of the heavier ELD-Ms. I whacked a fairly heavy rooting sow at about 300m with it not that long ago and that pig was poleaxed on the spot, through the lungs and out the other side.

When the 6.5mm 143gr ELD-X came out I switched to that in the Creedmoor and it’s been much better. Sensible sized wounding at medium ranges, very deadly, reasonable exit wounds with reduced meat damage on the offside.

The -X is a better all-rounder by a clear margin IMO, I’m happy to use it at shorter ranges in the Creedmoor and I wouldn’t hesitate to use it in my .308 on heavy reds. I am dead keen on a 6mm Creedmoor to use the 103gr ELD-X, but that will have to wait.

Your not supprised but you say are to frangible at close range?
I'm finding the M to be the perfect all rounder in my set up as I'm not driving them super fast. I did use accubonds in the roar, but have been using the Ms since, only shot 2 stags since the roar but they have worked well at close range


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Originally Posted by Smiddy

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I'm finding the M to be the perfect all rounder in my set up as I'm not driving them super fast. I did use accubonds in the roar, but have been using the Ms since, only shot 2 stags since the roar but they have worked well at close range

Give the ELD-X a try and you may find them even better (than perfect).

Work mint in my wsm at 2920fps, closest shot has been around 30m


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Originally Posted by Smiddy

Work mint in my wsm at 2920fps, closest shot has been around 30m


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Awesome, plenty of carnage?