Thread: GS Custom

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How have you found these bearfoot?

I have tipped up 3 reds with mine now killed well an cut nice path straight through

I've been thinking about getting some to try in my short 6.5x47

Ended up using the 95gn Targex as the rifle is very happy with them, there's now 600 odd projectiles sitting in the cupboard waiting slow but steady use.
Haven't had time to finish playing with the GS's though but very much on the back burner, rebuilding 2 bathrooms and the laundry is sucking up most of my time at the mo

el borracho,

Ive read some very negative stuff on Snipershide about their BC claims

I would like to set your mind at ease about Snipers Hide and the BC of GSC bullets. This is not a negative counter to what you said. After all, you report what you have seen in good faith. I just want the opportunity to state the GSC perspective.

Sniper's Hide were going to do a test of various bullets to determine how the manufacturers performed. The date set for the test was really inconvenient to us as we were in the process of expanding manufacturing from South Africa to the USA and had a host of other projects going. When we were invited by Mr Frank Galli, the owner of the Snipers Hide site, I politely declined to participate, explaining about the expansion, projects and our time line which was already fixed far beyond the date of the test. Also, I feared that the test would be a little biased, given that Mr. Galli was in support of another manufacturer and felt that the best route would be to assume a non-confrontational position.

Mr. Galli became aggressive and tried to force GSC into participation. He obtained some first generation GSC bullets and used them in the test. Despite the negative words written by Mr. Galli, the published table reflected a fair result for GSC.

* The GSC bullets were the lightest tested.
* The GSC bullets were shot at very slow speeds. Three other makes that were heavier were loaded to higher speeds than the GSC SP bullets.
* Mr. Galli then compared the BC obtained through testing, with the average BC of the three numbers given on the GSC website. He thereby compared apples to oranges.
* The three BC numbers given by GSC on the GSC website, are at the three speeds at which these numbers occur. It is intended to be used in a ballistics program.
* If the numbers are just averaged, the fact that the bullet spends far more time at the lower speed and BC is not taken into account. This is taken into account with a ballistics program and with a live test as done by SH and why the two sets of numbers cannot be compared.
* Further, the bullet tested by SH was about three years old at the time and the data from the improved version of the bullet was used for the SH comparison.
* Mr. Galli was informed of these facts very shortly after the test but elected to ban me from SH and let the results stand. I was told by someone, who has the information, that it was a commercial decision and in the best interest of SH.

I have published a corrected table and all relevant information regarding this matter.

GS CUSTOM BULLETS - Snipers Hide Test

There is always 2 sides to every story and you have explained yours well

Originally Posted by Gerard

el borracho,

I would like to set your mind at ease about Snipers Hide and the BC of GSC bullets. This is not a negative counter to what you said. After all, you report what you have seen in good faith. I just want the opportunity to state the GSC perspective.

Sniper's Hide were going to do a test of various bullets to determine how the manufacturers performed. The date set for the test was really inconvenient to us as we were in the process of expanding manufacturing from South Africa to the USA and had a host of other projects going. When we were invited by Mr Frank Galli, the owner of the Snipers Hide site, I politely declined to participate, explaining about the expansion, projects and our time line which was already fixed far beyond the date of the test. Also, I feared that the test would be a little biased, given that Mr. Galli was in support of another manufacturer and felt that the best route would be to assume a non-confrontational position.

Mr. Galli became aggressive and tried to force GSC into participation. He obtained some first generation GSC bullets and used them in the test. Despite the negative words written by Mr. Galli, the published table reflected a fair result for GSC.

* The GSC bullets were the lightest tested.
* The GSC bullets were shot at very slow speeds. Three other makes that were heavier were loaded to higher speeds than the GSC SP bullets.
* Mr. Galli then compared the BC obtained through testing, with the average BC of the three numbers given on the GSC website. He thereby compared apples to oranges.
* The three BC numbers given by GSC on the GSC website, are at the three speeds at which these numbers occur. It is intended to be used in a ballistics program.
* If the numbers are just averaged, the fact that the bullet spends far more time at the lower speed and BC is not taken into account. This is taken into account with a ballistics program and with a live test as done by SH and why the two sets of numbers cannot be compared.
* Further, the bullet tested by SH was about three years old at the time and the data from the improved version of the bullet was used for the SH comparison.
* Mr. Galli was informed of these facts very shortly after the test but elected to ban me from SH and let the results stand. I was told by someone, who has the information, that it was a commercial decision and in the best interest of SH.

I have published a corrected table and all relevant information regarding this matter.

GS CUSTOM BULLETS - Snipers Hide Test

Gerald.

Send me some 375 projectiles 375414SP256 & I will test them for you.

I have shot well over 1000 Cutting Edge bullets from 330-425 grains in several 375s.

As I have barrels with 7.8 & 7.25 exit twists I have more than enough speed & twist to stabilise the 414s.

I have shot 200 of your 416420SP155 in my custom 416 Barrett & was happy with the performance of them.

I'm always looking for a better mouse trap especially in the feild of ELR shooting.

Cheers Greg.

Originally Posted by Barefoot

Ended up using the 95gn Targex as the rifle is very happy with them, there's now 600 odd projectiles sitting in the cupboard waiting slow but steady use.
Haven't had time to finish playing with the GS's though but very much on the back burner, rebuilding 2 bathrooms and the laundry is sucking up most of my time at the mo

try targex 80gn two barefoot both his 95 and 80gn shot exceptionlay out of my 243 and they can drop animals hard aswell placed well.

Hello Greg,

Thanks for the kind words, I am glad you like the 416 bullets. With the way that legislation is tightening up, we have given up sending parcels to individuals in other countries. It is always a gamble whether the parcel will arrive and, more often than not, we lose. Our distributor in NZ has placed an order with us which we are still manufacturing and, no doubt, he will add to it as we go along and right up to sending. We have found that working through a distributor with all the paperwork in place is the only way to go. It is most reliable.

Please contact him at martin@smartbest.co.nz

His website is agreement_with_gs_custom

Thanks for the contact, we will always be available for technical assistance if it is required.

As far as supply and price is concerned, it is unfortunately a fact of life that some things cost more than others.

If the price hike is simply excessive markup/profit, it cannot be justified and it is a rip off. If, however, the higher price is the result of more care taken, a higher raw material price because of quality/features, an absolute quality control system and so on, the price is justified.

If you want to just get from A to B, one can walk or use a scooter or something that else that costs as little as what one wants to spend. If one wants to get from A to B in maximum safety, with total reliability and with a margin of safety when things go wrong or become difficult, transport costs more. This is the way with all commodities. You can sit on a bench made from boards or you can sit on something with padding.

I was once told that if one strives for perfection, even when you come up a bit short, you are still in good shape. We will always do the best we can.

See the bit under 'Bullet Design and Q&A'. We have changed to a digital thermometer but all else still remains.

GS CUSTOM BULLETS - Manufacturing and Quality Control Processes

Regards

Gerard

Update
Although I am now using the Targex projectiles, I've had the time recently to use up the last of GS Custom rounds on goats to test the actual performance.
It is fair to say that they do what they say, hole through both sides, good internal damage, not that much meat damage compared to the Targex.
Difference is the kill. Targex seem to be more emphatic, animal dead when I get there.
GS ones were typically still alive when I got there and needed a knife to finish the job quickly however the animals certainly weren't going to live much longer or get up an take off.

Where in NZ do you buy the Targex from ?

Originally Posted by Happy

Where in NZ do you buy the Targex from ?

https://sites.google.com/a/targex.co.nz/targex3/ Hes aso on trade me mate and here send him a Pm Targex

Originally Posted by Happy

Where in NZ do you buy the Targex from ?

You have some coming

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