Help design the NZHS Forum Wildcat - Part 3 - Case

[Ground Control]

Use the 6mmBR or 30BR case , take your pick of calibers . Maybe use .311 like the 303 ( that caliber is ingrained in NZ and Aussie culture ) Depending on the barrel twist chosen then you could drive lighter bullets fast enough out of that case to knock over most things in NZ out to 200yrds ( look up the 30BR's ballistics it is very effient and pushes 110-120gn bullets quite quick ), but it could also be used sub sonic with heavier bullets .
Sort of a short 303 without the trouble of the rim .

Ken

[Smiddy]

16inch bbl 338 saum

[Spanners]

16inch bbl 338 saum

My ears hurt!

[Toby]

Can you suppress a .338? or would the size make it pointless in having a short bush gun?

[Smiddy]

16in 338 saum, suppressed, 160gr ttsx, bring it on

[Smiddy]

yes i think weve found it, bush hunting is easy with 20in bbl, 4 inch forward suppressor

[veitnamcam]

Im confused, i thought this was a 200 meter cartridge?
Big slow pill 338 fed etc, maybe 338 saum?

Sent from my GT-S5360T using Tapatalk 2

?

[leathel]

16in 338 saum, suppressed, 160gr ttsx, bring it on

If i wasn't short staffed ATM mine would have been built already.... but I will start with a 20" barrel no can.

The way things are going with people crashing all over the show it might be 6 months before I get the time..... or 1 month. People don't tend to book in their crashes

[L.R]

Its a custom action given the case size..
Which will be heavier than a say a Rem 700 LA (must be to maintain similar to greater hoop stresses)
It shoots a bullet the same as many other cases which fit in say Rem 700 actions and same or less capacity, thus same/less performance

As I said prior - I dont get it
I understand the 'because you can' and if thats not the reason, you're having to use a custom action for case which is better than what? and you are achieving what?
Seems like square peg in round hole situation, and getting a new gold plated hole instead of a wooden peg to suit

Spanners, you are making assumptions about something you know nothing about. The action we are using is lighter than a s/s LA 700 and also has some other benefits. You are pushing your luck driving a 300gr pill at 3100fps with any case in a rem action.

[Spanners]

Spanners, you are making assumptions about something you know nothing about. The action we are using is lighter than a s/s LA 700 and also has some other benefits. You are pushing your luck driving a 300gr pill at 3100fps with any case in a rem action.

You'd be surprised what I know There are a couple of people around that hop over the fence regularly.

An action lighter than a 700 SA but bigger and stronger - mind posting up the finite analysis model for interests sake? (which you surely must have done?)

There are hundreds if not thousands of Lapua Improveds chambered in 700s - I know of at least 3 reamers floating around NZ which get a bit of use
338 Edge +P... both those example with do the above on a 700
Round counts in 100 of thousands? through those actions around the world would suggest other wise.. wheres all the failure reports and pics?
Let alone the clones both aftermarket and factory like McMillan etc

Couple of months ago you couldn't push XX pill at YY speed because of pressure - but now it possible??

[L.R]

The action is designed for the cheytac case,there are other materials in the world other than stainless and Crome steels. You think you know but really know fuck all!

We do not need to exceed 70k psi to get that velocity.

I would own a lap imp on a 700 myself, all I'm saying is they are getting pushed to the limits and the rounds don't fit nicely in them either. There is a reason all the Rem clones for lapua cases are bigger in diameter and lug size than the rem action, not the same as you suggest.

[Normie]

This is an interesting wildcat. I like the idea a lot. Non magnum Short action 6.5 getting 3k. Almost too good to be true. Worth a read.

New 6.5 Idea - Long Range Hunting Online Magazine

[L.R]

To good to be true alright. Shorten a 284 case reduce capacity lower pressures and increase velocity, I don't think so.

[Normie]

Seems it works though. They got 3040 something with RL17

[Toby]

So whats happening with this now?