Thread: I have a cunning plan

Originally Posted by Pengy

Casts are gas checked and lubed I believe .

Definitely don't start with a full case of Trail Boss you will get a shotgun pattern most loads that are shooting well are between 8.0 and 9.0 grains with no fillers or drilled out flash-holes
and standard primers, If you haven't shot cast bullets through your barrel before give it a serious clean lead just hates copper, use your can to develop your load the gas checks won't come
off try getting one off a bullet I'll send a replacement, they will stabilise just fine I shoot them through a 1:13" twist barrel,
If you want to see them in action go to Hardcore outdoors Face Book page they have a video of a goat shot with one,
Good luck, Robert.

Originally Posted by Pengy

Casts are gas checked and lubed I believe .

Not always but its a good idea. It depends on who casts them and what they cast them for....Dont need a gas check on a 12g cast slug....

Originally Posted by timattalon

Not always but its a good idea. It depends on who casts them and what they cast them for....Dont need a gas check on a 12g cast slug....

Sorry, what I meant by that comment was that the cast pills that I got from Robert, are gas checked and lubed.

I like cunning plans and that one is a beauty

Wibble

Is there any way you can funnel feed into an effective killing box?
So you can get more than one shot at em. Failing that build a high seat at lest then all shots should be angled into the ground!
Subs sound good to but once the first one goes off they will all start running.
Maze should do it, you won't need much.
If you need to build the high seat then I'd put the maze down as you build so that there not put out as the construction takes place.
Finish well before dark and feed, once built I'd then feed heavy for two nights and hit em on the third

Id add that go on a real windy night . Even with subs I'm guessing they will spook , you may just get away with it if wind is up . We spotlit heaps of pigs over green feed , good old Norwester was our friend .

Another option rather than clean them out all in one go and freeze the whole is take 1 or 2 at a time then you have fresh meat on tap

Originally Posted by sako75

Another option rather than clean them out all in one go and freeze the whole is take 1 or 2 at a time then you have fresh meat on tap

Landowner wants them gone burgers so need to shoot as many as possible really.

So I loaded some up thi morning, starting at 10 gr and going down t 8.3 gr.

Tested x3 of each. One shot with no suppressor. One shot with suppressor once I knew they didn't tumble. Then one shot with suppressor into pine blocks to test expansion.
8.4 seems best at the moment, although I am not certain they are quite subsonic as my hearing is crap anyway. Will test over chrono.
Penetration and expansion are good at 50 yards. Passed through two 30mm blocks of dry pine with ease, and retained a high % of projectile weight, while expanding very well.

8.3 gr lacked penetration and was borderline tumbler.
Love the lack of recoil

8.3 gr lacked penetration and was borderline tumbler.
Love the lack of recoil [/QUOTE]
I doubt you are getting any tumbling I've run the Berger stability calculator on it and at 600fps it has a stability factor of 2.47 any thing greater than 1.5 is stable, at 1050fps it is 2.98.

Originally Posted by shooternz

8.3 gr lacked penetration and was borderline tumbler.
Love the lack of recoil

I doubt you are getting any tumbling I've run the Berger stability calculator on it and at 600fps it has a stability factor of 2.47 any thing greater than 1.5 is stable, at 1050fps it is 2.98.[/QUOTE]

It may well have been a slight optical illusion caused by the angle of entry, as the shot was slightly down hill.

What sort of accuracy are you getting? My two .308's both shoot 5 shot groups of 1/2" at 50 metres you should be getting 1" groups at that distance at least

Originally Posted by shooternz

What sort of accuracy are you getting? My two .308's both shoot 5 shot groups of 1/2" at 50 metres you should be getting 1" groups at that distance at least

I haven't been trying to shoot for accurate grouping yet, and to be honest, I am not that fussed so long as it hits within an inch of where I aim it at 50 yards. I don't intend it for anything outside of that on animals..
So far, my test loads have been remarkably spot on, even with me on the trigger

Originally Posted by Pengy

So I loaded some up thi morning, starting at 10 gr and going down t 8.3 gr.

Tested x3 of each. One shot with no suppressor. One shot with suppressor once I knew they didn't tumble. Then one shot with suppressor into pine blocks to test expansion.
8.4 seems best at the moment, although I am not certain they are quite subsonic as my hearing is crap anyway. Will test over chrono.
Penetration and expansion are good at 50 yards. Passed through two 30mm blocks of dry pine with ease, and retained a high % of projectile weight, while expanding very well.

8.3 gr lacked penetration and was borderline tumbler.
Love the lack of recoil

You will definitely know when the go subsonic by the noise (or lack of). It is like night and day.