Thread: Importing projectiles in luggage

They haven't answered your question. That is just the requirements for hunters taking their own ammuntion with them when they go hunting.

I asked them if I could "leave the US with rifle projectiles for personal use in my 'checked luggage'. With no incendiary or explosives to be carried."

I believe their directed response is due the TSA having no requirements for projectiles.

Just because the TSA aren't concerned doesn't mean it's legal.
The TSA are only interested in safety, I believe it is ITAR who are the ones who will be on to you for exporting ammo etc without a licence. I believe projectiles and brass require a permit for export.

Where they will ever know, is another matter? I don't know what checks ITAR do.

US State Department - Policy - Directorate of Defense Trade Controls

Projectiles/bullets, as long as they are not listed as military grade, are not considered controlled export items under the ITAR munitions list.

Catagory 3. US munitions list

Mate I always grab half a dozen boxes whenever I'm in the states...have never been asked about them and they typically cost about half what NZ retail stores charge

Originally Posted by Hillman

US State Department - Policy - Directorate of Defense Trade Controls

Projectiles/bullets, as long as they are not listed as military grade, are not considered controlled export items under the ITAR munitions list.

I cannot find that statement.

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I was paraphrasing complex policy across a number of policies in that document.
It is legally easier for policy to say no to items than to say yes. This why we will not find policy simply stating yes. If it is not defined as a controlled export item in carry on luggage, then it isn't.
I can not find any mention to prohibition or certification of non-military projectiles for personal use in personal luggage to New Zealand. Middle East countries yes, NZ no.
And the TSA allow it.
Checked luggage is not export rated, if TSA requirements are followed. 5 kg etc etc.

I now understand why this was so hard to find.
And why the TSA can yes or no depending on who is working desk that day.
I'll tell my Folks to be nice.

But as a question. Has anyone seen a post of someone having projectiles confiscated from checked luggage from US to NZ? If so, please post a link here. I'd like to see it

Ignore this statement I miswrote it.
"Checked luggage is not export rated, if TSA requirements are followed. 5 kg etc etc"

Originally Posted by Hillman

I was paraphrasing complex policy across a number of policies in that document.
It is legally easier for policy to say no to items than to say yes. This why we will not find policy simply stating yes. If it is not defined as a controlled export item in carry on luggage, then it isn't.
I can not find any mention to prohibition or certification of non-military projectiles for personal use in personal luggage to New Zealand. Middle East countries yes, NZ no.
And the TSA allow it.
Checked luggage is not export rated, if TSA requirements are followed. 5 kg etc etc.

Does that mean no Sierra projectiles, as they are used by the military is some loads?

they arent that pricey here...... 32c per projectile for 50grn zmax .223 in 500 box


how cheap do you anticipate getting them????

Sierra is a brand.

Full metal jackets are likely restricted due to that militaries are not allowed to use soft points. And thus militaries want them.

Soft points are sporting ammo. And likely, as I said above, not restricted.

Originally Posted by Micky Duck

they arent that pricey here...... 32c per projectile for 50grn zmax .223 in 500 box


how cheap do you anticipate getting them????

18c a round