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    Quote Originally Posted by 7mmwsm View Post
    When the same combination is poked in to a tough animal close up, more speed will fragment the projectile sooner and it may not reach the vitals.
    Soft projectiles kill great...... Until they don't. Then they leave a horrible mess.
    flip that on its head........stout/hard projectiles work great untill you get lower velocity and/or have bullet drift slightly off point of aim and dot hit any bone so it meets no risistance..then you get a pencil type hole and next to no mess...mess=good
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    Quote Originally Posted by 7mmwsm View Post
    I would consider that a failure. It has disintegrated. To do that at that speed means it's to soft.
    I like a nice mushroom with the core retained. Which is why I prefer bonded projectiles.
    Inreresting comment,its disintergraded and stopped the deer,good.Being too soft really,to me thats good,better than penciling straight thru.its traveled thru two sholders and smashed them and stopped the deer in its tracks.Iv stopped deer out to 430yrds,ssts seem to work for me.Il try and find a nice mush roo for you one day.The core retained hmmm,interesting.22 deer last summer didnt think it failed
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    Quote Originally Posted by 7mmwsm View Post
    I would consider that a failure. It has disintegrated. To do that at that speed means it's to soft.
    I like a nice mushroom with the core retained. Which is why I prefer bonded projectiles.
    I dont reload,so name a high performance 308 150-165 gr bullet with a bonded projectile in it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trout View Post
    I dont reload,so name a high performance 308 150-165 gr bullet with a bonded projectile in it.
    A basic Hornady spire point would perform better than that. As would a Remington Corelokt. Name:  17048766488001119847514230337155.jpg
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    Here is a selection of Hornady Spire points, 150 and 165 grains recovered from reds, at about the same speed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 7mmwsm View Post
    I would consider that a failure. It has disintegrated. To do that at that speed means it's to soft.
    I like a nice mushroom with the core retained. Which is why I prefer bonded projectiles.
    IMO if they do that they just create shrapnel. The animal is dead!
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    My girlfreind uses the same bullet at about the same speed. Nothing fancy, just puts it in the shoulder, havent seen one walk away yet. A couple of times theres been a hole through both shoulders, but the damge between is pretty major. Her 11 year old son has taken 3 for 3, a hind, a spiker, and a stag. The hind took 2 paces, the other 2 bang flop. Wont be seeing any complaints about bullet performance from her, she loves her 308 and the SST.

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    great podcast for those who have time

    Covers all that's talked about above and much much more with real-world data.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjqCM_cNLfc&t=1227s
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    Podcast watching?too busy cutting up venison.By
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trout View Post
    Podcast watching?too busy cutting up venison.By
    Do you not have speakers?
    you dont have to be glued to the screen

    https://open.spotify.com/episode/1ut...T3ews8wJ2rGQ0w
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    I have been using the 130ttsx for 5+ years and is a great bullet for close range sub 200m. I would not use it over that because it will not expand at lower velocity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobba View Post
    I have been using the 130ttsx for 5+ years and is a great bullet for close range sub 200m. I would not use it over that because it will not expand at lower velocity.
    I use both 165gn and 180gn TTSX ( 30.06 and 300 Win Mag ) out to 400 yds and get good kills. The bullets expand but noticeably less expansion at 400 yds compared to closer shots. Degree of expansion is velocity related and the faster they're driven the more they expand.
    Have also shot a few 130gn TTSX but only closer shots so far so unsure of effectiveness further out.
    Overall though TTSX are great bullets IMHO. My current favourites anyway

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trout View Post
    This what Hornady308 165ssts look like after going thru the sholder of a red shot at 318yds MV 2760ft/s.Mushroomed ok,deer fell over.
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    thats pretty normal mate, even the 165 softpoint interlock in my 308 does exactly the same even on large fallow. interlock is the same bullet as SST less the plastic tip
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    My thoughts:
    -Great result, dead deer. Stick with it, avoid the shoulder meat.
    -Im switching to barnes ttsx because they are lead free, super accurate in my .308, and I love shoulder and neck meat.
    -listening to podcasts whilst cutting up venison is my second favorite recreational activity
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    I wont bother with podcast things,been with out them the last 70yrs.I manage ok with what iv got to listen too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trout View Post
    I wont bother with podcast things,been with out them the last 70yrs.I manage ok with what iv got to listen too.
    A bit of advice, if you ever hunt dangerous game, don't be to cocky to get some advice on projectiles.
    Overkill is still dead.

 

 

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