Thread: Newbie help

Originally Posted by HNTMAD

Why not 189 or 168 bergers??

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Bc

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Originally Posted by puku

Yes there is a quick change bush missing.
That press looks new. If you bought it in a kit there should be 3 with it.

Cheers. Don't think I have them fuck it all. Will see if I can buy some seperately

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Originally Posted by Cartman

Bc

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Cool, while it is important if you run the figures it doesn't actually change a lot so done get hung up on it too much. Just my opinion

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It does when your shooting 1000 yards in the wind ill take any advantage i can get. Down range energy. The 208 amax and 215 berger are hard to beat. Don't know why I would run a 168 pill when these shoot and perform so well.

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Originally Posted by Cartman

It does when your shooting 1000 yards in the wind ill take any advantage i can get. Down range energy. The 208 amax and 215 berger are hard to beat. Don't know why I would run a 168 pill when these shoot and perform so well.

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Better get rid of your .300 thingy and get a 7mm Mag, feed it 180 Bergers - Job done, advantage 7, play on!

If you say so. .....

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@Cartman, i may finish going your way tomorrow to fetch a part to my truck, if i have time and you available i will call in for a chat.

Hope i can give you some advise, however, the boys in here already gave you a good head start.

Mac

Originally Posted by 257weatherby

Better get rid of your .300 thingy and get a 7mm Mag, feed it 180 Bergers - Job done, advantage 7, play on!

Disagree!
As a 7mm Rem Mag owner i must advise that with the factory twist rate in the commercial rifles it is in the hard way to get the total performance the projectile can produce. To achieve it you must load it "hot" enough so the velocity will carry the projectile at long distance without loose the spin and start to tumble.
I do understand that we have colleagues and friends in here that use it and is very successful but they may replace barrels more often than a "traditional" load will do to you.
Just my 0.02c.



Mac

(replace the barrel for a longer one and a faster twist (1-8.5" -1-9") and it will be the dream gun, or if you really want to go "ballistic" with your 300WM just replace the barrel for a little faster twist again(1-8.5" or 1-9") and use the berger 230gr, it will bit the 338 Lapua with 250gr all day(information from "Applied Ballistics")

Nah mate , unless it's my days off you'll never see me. Well sus something out next days off


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Originally Posted by PERRISCICABA

Disagree!
As a 7mm Rem Mag owner i must advise that with the factory twist rate in the commercial rifles it is in the hard way to get the total performance the projectile can produce. To achieve it you must load it "hot" enough so the velocity will carry the projectile at long distance without loose the spin and start to tumble.
I do understand that we have colleagues and friends in here that use it and is very successful but they may replace barrels more often than a "traditional" load will do to you.
Just my 0.02c.



Mac

(replace the barrel for a longer one and a faster twist (1-8.5" -1-9") and it will be the dream gun, or if you really want to go "ballistic" with your 300WM just replace the barrel for a little faster twist again(1-8.5" or 1-9") and use the berger 230gr, it will bit the 338 Lapua with 250gr all day(information from "Applied Ballistics")

180 Berger in a 7mm Mag at 2900/3000fps, is hardly going to wear out barrels at a prodidious rate, and if they don't keyhole at a 1000yds, they are probibly not tumbling.......... you might just be having some bad luck with yours - Short and Duley have been on opposing sides of .284 vs .30 for years, both work but the .30 takes a lot more omff to get the same ballistics to be in the same ballpark as the 7.

Originally Posted by Cartman

Also remember seating depth. Do I start the load development to touch the lands? Or go a couple thou off. Man I'm going to fuck this up

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i just did some loads for my 7mmRM, made myself a dummy round jamming it to the lands, then ajusted another dummy round till no land marks showed. worked rather well seems to be good as gold.

also, iv got a 300wm, and i found the factory winchester 180gr silvertips to shoot better than anything i could ever load..... maybe try those??

Originally Posted by 257weatherby

180 Berger in a 7mm Mag at 2900/3000fps, is hardly going to wear out barrels at a prodidious rate, and if they don't keyhole at a 1000yds, they are probibly not tumbling.......... you might just be having some bad luck with yours - Short and Duley have been on opposing sides of .284 vs .30 for years, both work but the .30 takes a lot more omff to get the same ballistics to be in the same ballpark as the 7.

Most rem mags I've seen can barely get those speeds with the 162. I don't know what you mean by heaps more omphh I use 79 grains of 2225 to get 2920 with the 215 berger is that 4 or 5 more grains than the rem mag?.
It carries 1000lbs of energy out to 1400 odd yards too which is handy.
Not a climber pissing contest I've had both , both kill shit and both require you to turn the nob on top of your scope.

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*caliber

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Hey cartman do you use a bullet comparator? The hornady one is good. About $60 bucks and has all the common inserts 20,25,26,27,28 and 30. Got bit of kit to ensure seating depth consistency