Thread: Percussion caps !

Originally Posted by Tasbay

777 and Pyrodex need a higher ignition temperature than Black powder. You can dribble a little 4F or 3F black down the barrel first then the 777 on top. Remember to thump the side of your lock when loading before you ram down the Bullet/ball on the powder. This will help with powder getting close to the nipple in the flash channel.
Recently I have been using a few #11 CCI Percussion caps and have had a few that have needed a second hammer strike to set them off. I`m the one who uses the red toy cap gun caps.... hell they seem to just work all the time but wouldn`t be hot enough for 777. Corned home made black powder and they are hard to beat.
Just my opinion but I`d stick to the Black Powder.

I use em too but with a trickle of 4f in the cap. Have never had a misfire

Originally Posted by Marty Henry

BP on the other hand produces potassium carbonate as a residue which is alkaline and actually slows or prevents rusting.

I'd risk that with sulphur-free BP.

Originally Posted by Driverman

I use em too but with a trickle of 4f in the cap. Have never had a misfire

CCI #11 percussion or Toy Caps ??

Toy caps. They are star-caps and they are 8 to a ring and 9 rings to a packet and 4 packets for $2.00. I add a small amount of 4f to the nipple or cap (just a few grains) Too much and it will blow the hammer back . a black powder slam fire .

Originally Posted by Driverman

Toy caps. They are star-caps and they are 8 to a ring and 9 rings to a packet and 4 packets for $2.00. I add a small amount of 4f to the nipple or cap (just a few grains) Too much and it will blow the hammer back . a black powder slam fire .

$2 for 4 packs that's cheap , $1 a pack here but still a fraction of the price of CCI #11 percussion caps. When I only use homemade BP the toy caps work fine, if using Goex 2F they can fail to fire the charge from what I remember. I haven`t used Bought powder for quite a while unless its 4f in the flash pan of the flintlock.

Shot a Good sized Billy Goat yesterday but from only about 35yds front on. The ball entered the chest and came out the back end smashing the a back leg. That's not bad penetration. Round ball just made from wheel weight lead.

The way things are going homemade powder, scrounged lead and toy caps might be all we have to use in our large calibre sidelock sniper rifles

Originally Posted by Tasbay

$2 for 4 packs that's cheap , $1 a pack here but still a fraction of the price of CCI #11 percussion caps. When I only use homemade BP the toy caps work fine, if using Goex 2F they can fail to fire the charge from what I remember. I haven`t used Bought powder for quite a while unless its 4f in the flash pan of the flintlock.

Shot a Good sized Billy Goat yesterday but from only about 35yds front on. The ball entered the chest and came out the back end smashing the a back leg. That's not bad penetration. Round ball just made from wheel weight lead.

The way things are going homemade powder, scrounged lead and toy caps might be all we have to use in our large calibre sidelock sniper rifles

Yes if they decide to ban .50 BMG they might come after my .50 cal as well.
It was state of the art in 1840
And can fire a steady 2 rpm

Originally Posted by akaroa1

Yes if they decide to ban .50 BMG they might come after my .50 cal as well.
It was state of the art in 1840
And can fire a steady 2 rpm

There is part of the problem if you word it a steady 2 rpm its not as dramatic as 120 rounds an hour. A bit like showing the select comity a 5 shot Mini14 with what is possibly the only 100 round drum mag in the country to impress how sinister they are even though they have been here for about the last 50 odd years and used primarily for hunting.

Akaroa1: Did you get anything with the Muzzleloader Thar hunting?. I have just returned from the Hopkins, saw a few but we got pushed out by the weather.

@Tasbay
I got 1 bull
I missed 1 bull
I passed up a shot at a group of bulls that i wouldn't have been to recover

It was a huge challenge with the muzzleloader
Mainly the short days and having time to get within 100m
I will do it again but still need to work on a few things.
The Lyman deerstalker was perfect for the job.
Lost 1 screw but i really think they were never concieved for whati was doing with it.

We flew
Walked
Climbed
Packrafted

We slept in
Tent
Hut
Rock bivvy

We saw plenty of tahr
Fairly high
Mainly in the north facing country
We saw 40+ bulls but hot the one

I was a bit rusty on mid winter tahr and we made some mistakes
Like not carrying the crampons and ice axe all the time.
After the rain Wednesday it was a nightmare on Thursday.

I would do it again tomorrow

I've had miss firing issues with CCI's before that had nothing to do with the caps but wear and tear on the nipple itself. I now replace the nipples every few years and take some time to check that the hammer face is set to come down square and even on the caps. If the hammer is a little loose on it's pivot that is enough to change things but in general firing nipples are a consumable.

Originally Posted by akaroa1

@Tasbay
I got 1 bull
I missed 1 bull
I passed up a shot at a group of bulls that i wouldn't have been to recover

It was a huge challenge with the muzzleloader
Mainly the short days and having time to get within 100m
I will do it again but still need to work on a few things.
The Lyman deerstalker was perfect for the job.
Lost 1 screw but i really think they were never concieved for whati was doing with it.

We flew
Walked
Climbed
Packrafted

We slept in
Tent
Hut
Rock bivvy

We saw plenty of tahr
Fairly high
Mainly in the north facing country
We saw 40+ bulls but hot the one

I was a bit rusty on mid winter tahr and we made some mistakes
Like not carrying the crampons and ice axe all the time.
After the rain Wednesday it was a nightmare on Thursday.

I would do it again tomorrow

Very Cool. Son and I drove down and up the Hopkins with plans of driving to Dodger hut (12hrs). Unfortunately the river had changed since he was there 2yrs ago so ended up carrying packs 58cal and 7mm08. Lost a day getting in and pushed out with only one days hunting. Thar are not something we get where I live so was enjoyable just to see some. Also noted the dead Wallabys south side of Burks Pass by the road, so they have made it into Mackenzie basin. Nothing stopping them going south now.

Originally Posted by Tasbay

Very Cool. Son and I drove down and up the Hopkins with plans of driving to Dodger hut (12hrs). Unfortunately the river had changed since he was there 2yrs ago so ended up carrying packs 58cal and 7mm08. Lost a day getting in and pushed out with only one days hunting. Thar are not something we get where I live so was enjoyable just to see some. Also noted the dead Wallabys south side of Burks Pass by the road, so they have made it into Mackenzie basin. Nothing stopping them going south now.

I've heard reliable reports of them getting into the two thumb are so it won't be long before they are in the Rangitata catchment - what a mess.

they are in the Geraldine forestry...have been seen by the kakahu limeworks...heard reports of them in orari river bed.....havent seen them there myself.
quite a few been in south opuha for years,they are in north opuha. they have been in mackenzie basin for years.
if and when acess to private land to hunt is granted the numbers can be kept in check....pretty hard to do so when you cant get access.

Originally Posted by Micky Duck

they are in the Geraldine forestry...have been seen by the kakahu limeworks...heard reports of them in orari river bed.....havent seen them there myself.
quite a few been in south opuha for years,they are in north opuha. they have been in mackenzie basin for years.
if and when acess to private land to hunt is granted the numbers can be kept in check....pretty hard to do so when you cant get access.

Yes, we need access and a common sense plan - all it would take is some good old communication and bit of organising and we (the rec hunting mob) could make a positive contribution to keeping wallabies in check.

I've just been reading up on 777 in .50 muzzle loader (just picked the gun up, waiting for rest of accoutrements) and see that they recommend 209 shotgun primer. Maybe helpful.