Thread: Projectile performance

Typo. 95GR Targex on there way.Interesting to compare with the 87gr Berger. Shot 2 stags last night in rain @ 20m with 95gr SST. Yelling at my son to shoot them.I have was the reply. They then fell over. The smaller stag you could not see the entry hole in the shoulder it was so tiny. The big stag was marginally more noticeable. Both thru the shoulder. Using 43gr R17.Musta been zipping along.The big stag was very fat.Got cold in the wet getting them out. .

I'd just be quite curious here.

So that's based on a Berger. How does a SMK compare regarding the size of the hollow point ?

I've heard of a few people getting erratic performance with them

by same token I have in my collection of recovered projectiles 1 50 grn and 1 52grn speer HP varmit projectiles that look almost identical,both failed to expand at all and appear to have tumbled inside animal instead,the 52 grn was actually inside heart of red stag shot at 200ish yards from across gully from higher elevation. now BOTH of those projectiles are super soft,and both NORMALLY super reliable for expansion etc. just goes to show funky things happen to everything sooner or later.

and also heard of people opening tips of them with needle file......

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There might be a word of wisdom what Bryn Blythen has already said. Awaiting the 95gr Targex. Want to compare the pinhole. LOL. I have the Tamiya pin vise but now hesitant on whether it is a wasted exercise.

My 95gr Targex arrived. The tip cavity/channel I roughly guaged was a tight fit with 1.1mm drill and looser with 1.2. The issue seems to be that the cavity[for such pills]needs to be sufficently open to allow maximum expansion on impact. I also have 87gr BERGER VLD. If there is a cavity it is minute. So with Tamiya pin vise and 6 different size drills finally got to .9mm to create a cavity bearing any resemblance [ take that with caution]to the Targex cavity. It is a nice projectile the Targex.Advertising for the man fron Matakohe. So far have done 7 Berger enlarged projectiles. Will load both and see the results. Reluctant to load any current Berger without some modification because the comments on the Forum have noted some horror stories of lack of performance. Enquired about a Hoover Meplat Trimmer but seems they are currently in short supply. The reason being the Targex is an attractive pill finish wise. Quality from BB. A new venture is occurring. LOL.

Originally Posted by TeRei

My 95gr Targex arrived. The tip cavity/channel I roughly guaged was a tight fit with 1.1mm drill and looser with 1.2. The issue seems to be that the cavity[for such pills]needs to be sufficently open to allow maximum expansion on impact. I also have 87gr BERGER VLD. If there is a cavity it is minute. So with Tamiya pin vise and 6 different size drills finally got to .9mm to create a cavity bearing any resemblance [ take that with caution]to the Targex cavity. It is a nice projectile the Targex.Advertising for the man fron Matakohe. So far have done 7 Berger enlarged projectiles. Will load both and see the results. Reluctant to load any current Berger without some modification because the comments on the Forum have noted some horror stories of lack of performance. Enquired about a Hoover Meplat Trimmer but seems they are currently in short supply. The reason being the Targex is an attractive pill finish wise. Quality from BB. A new venture is occurring. LOL.

I've been round for a while and killed the odd animal or two myself, used lots of 95 VLD and 95 Targex on deer big and deer little, and on solidly built Tahr bulls and on nannies, I wonder about the stories put about about poor performance on the bullets part, I have never had a runner, never had a loss to that pill and kills have always been decisive. I don't generally shoulder shoot, I put it in the vital zone and let the bullet trash the internals. Never drilled out any of them either.

"Expansion" I have a theory about that in relation to the Berger and Targex. I believe the idea that the hollow point opens under hydraulic pressure on impact is flawed. What I believe is going on is: the small hp lets the pill stay together long enough to penetrate, then it collapses because it has a big cavity and the pill tumbles and sheds most of it's weight. Like a little grenade in the lungs. Inside the animal where it counts. So: I reckon drilling out any of the VLD's or Targex is the wrong direction.

My 2c

Ive shot hundreds of wallaby and deer with Targex .223 and .243 and never had a fail. All ranges and all conditions. I would back them out of the pkt 100%
Ive lost a few and wounded some, but it can always be traced back to driver error or poor judgement.

Shot quite a few with Bergers too - 7-08 and 270wsm and they have always worked fine.

Others' experience might be different to me.

Here is a 150 Berger .270wsm in and out at 180 yards. Didn't move a muscle.

In (just a pin hole)


Out


Different story under the skin though...

In


Out


For me, this is typical using Bergers.

Good to hear they arrived ok & that they look ok
Hopefully they shoot ok!
Another thing to be aware of which I am sure you are is if the meplats are trimmed the bullet weights will have to be watched very carefully. Won't matter for closer shooting but as you get further out any bullet weight difference variance will be noticed.
Will also alter the BC on whatever bullet is being used.
Good luck!

Tahr those fotos are brutal.

Originally Posted by TARGEX

Good to hear they arrived ok & that they look ok
Hopefully they shoot ok!
Another thing to be aware of which I am sure you are is if the meplats are trimmed the bullet weights will have to be watched very carefully. Won't matter for closer shooting but as you get further out any bullet weight difference variance will be noticed.
Will also alter the BC on whatever bullet is being used.
Good luck!

I was wondering if there are 6.5 projectiles available for sale? I’d like 140 grain, 150 or 160 weight range for use up close and personal ie <100m


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Originally Posted by Danny

I was wondering if there are 6.5 projectiles available for sale? I’d like 140 grain, 150 or 160 weight range for use up close and personal ie <100m


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Id like 150-160gr 6.5 for way out there performance.

Originally Posted by veitnamcam

Id like 150-160gr 6.5 for way out there performance.

And up close even!!